December 21, 2007
Session Start: Fri Dec 21 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Fri Dec 21 00:00:00 2007
[05:10] {Threei} JASO SIGNS SALES AGREEMENT WITH SOLARIA FOR UP TO 60MW IN 2008
[05:11] {hawkfan4} ugg, sold it into the close yesterday
[05:11] {Threei} for profit?
[05:12] {hawkfan4} small, but yes
[05:12] {Threei} :)
[05:12] {Threei} with this news and strong market opening, we very well may be looking at solar day again
[05:13] {Threei} JASO is over 52 week high
[05:13] {Threei} SOLF gapping nicely
[05:13] {hawkfan4} they have been a good group, usually nice to trade
[05:14] {Threei} ESLR gap
[05:14] {Threei} CSIQ gap
[05:14] {Threei} they've been a godsend lately
[05:15] {hawkfan4} they really have
[05:15] {Threei} with questionable overall market follow-through this group gave steady flow of opportunities
[05:15] {Threei} there is usually this or that mania around to bring us bacon
[05:16] {Threei} best manias are those that stick around
[05:16] {Threei} not one day wonder
[05:17] {Threei} then we have enough time to find all the participants, get used to the way they trade, determine leaders
[05:17] {hawkfan4} the patterns still look great for these, hope we can milk more out of it for a while
[05:18] {Threei} I'd think so, they are supported well on pullbacks, and even with quite sizeable runs don't look like they ran out of gas
[05:18] {Threei} "legitimate mania"
[05:18] {Threei} unlike those now and then sparkling stem cells or ip-phone manias
[05:19] {Threei} that last couple days only to dissolve for years
[05:19] {hawkfan4} lol, flash in the pan
[05:19] {Threei} exactly
[05:19] {Threei} umm... sorry... eqzaktly is correct way to spell things
[05:19] {Threei} I mean korrekt
[05:20] {hawkfan4} solars have been nice in that when one gets hot it usually pulls the laggards up with them.
[05:20] {Threei} that's how decent mania works
[05:20] {hawkfan4} I understlandz perfektlee
[05:20] {Threei} snake principle
[05:20] {Threei} yes, I can see that klearly :)
[05:22] {Threei} RIMM is probably what gives a push this morning
[05:24] {Threei} BROADPOINT CAPITAL INITIATES CSIQ WITH EQUAL WEIGHT, PRICE TARGET: $27
[05:24] {Threei} 27? CSIQ can make it in 3 trades {G}
[05:25] {hawkfan4} lukewarm
[05:25] {Threei} when it's at 30 they'll issue new target 31
[05:27] {hawkfan4} lol, you're probably right. i love reading the upgrades, like upgrading RIGL after a 20 point surge. That's value added stuff
[05:27] {Threei} yeah, inkredibly meaningless stuff
[05:27] {Threei} uh oh... if Raven scrolls up, we are dead
[05:27] {Raven} sheesh !
[05:27] {Threei} {--- hiding
[05:28] {hawkfan4} oops {gulp}
[05:28] {Raven} You get up too early
[05:28] {Threei} no kidding
[05:28] {Threei} but I have two weeks of legitimate sleeping-in ahead of me
[05:29] {Raven} go on vacation to a new place and sleep ... that makes no sense
[05:29] {Threei} well, to me sleeping in means gewtting up at 8... :)
[05:29] {Raven} hmmm
[05:30] {Threei} I don't think my hosts will appreciate it if I wake up at 5 and start yelling "come on, let's go somewhere"
[05:31] {Raven} well .... you have a point there
[05:35] {Threei} 26 big offer canceled at SOLF
[05:37] {magoo} morn
[05:37] {Threei} mags :)
[05:37] {magoo} 725K daytrade today
[05:37] {magoo} now if bogus, and better be, still won't be up until 10 -11 .
[05:38] {magoo} and vad will aleady be done with good sdtuff
[05:38] {magoo} its like they are forcing me out
[05:39] {BillyD} morning guyds
[05:39] {BillyD} guys
[05:39] {Threei} billy :)
[05:43] {liranm} gm everyone
[05:43] {BillyD} Vad, u driving to San Diego
[05:43] {BillyD} liranm :)
[05:43] {Threei} liranm :)
[05:44] {Threei} no Billy, changed this part of the plan
[05:44] {Threei} taking train
[05:44] {Threei} they say this rouyte is very scenic
[05:44] {BillyD} oh, how many miles to drive
[05:44] {Threei} and relaxing
[05:44] {BillyD} that will be nice
[05:44] {Threei} it's not very far, about 1300 miles I think
[05:45] {Threei} and in summertime I would take it with no hesitation
[05:45] {BillyD} I thought would be further.....but hey anything over a couple is too far for me :)
[05:45] {BillyD} hunderd
[05:45] {Threei} but getting dark early and possible delay in the mountains mean 2 motel nights instead of one
[05:46] {BillyD} how long is train ride?
[05:46] {Threei} with possible serious delay if snow hits Oregon/Northern Ca passes
[05:46] {Threei} about 36 hours
[05:47] {BillyD} enjoy yourself with wife?
[05:47] {Threei} shorter than driving, cheaper and relaxation instead of two days of work
[05:47] {Threei} yeah
[05:47] {BillyD} another honeymoon
[05:52] {esemde} morning all...
[05:52] {Threei} ese :)
[06:01] {lumdus} magoo, why you still with that brokerage ?
[06:01] {lumdus} Today is vad last day ?
[06:02] {Threei} well... in this room this year, yeah :)
[06:02] {Threei} in all other senses it's not that gloomy
[06:03] {magoo} well, how fast u think i can set up a new acct?
[06:03] {magoo} just sent recieved/paperwork
[06:03] {magoo} need to wire funds
[06:03] {magoo} etc.
[06:04] {magoo} this only started last week
[06:04] {magoo} but shiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeet..i get shut doewn everyday now
[06:04] {magoo} miss all easy money
[06:04] {lumdus} ok magoo.
[06:04] {magoo} killing me..
[06:04] {Threei} (whispering) even though I advised to do the switch months ago
[06:04] {esemde} Are you taking a holiday Vad?...
[06:05] {magoo} u pushing your luck l;ittle man {soup nazi} HE HE
[06:05] {Threei} yes ese
[06:05] {esemde} cool...where are you off too
[06:05] {Threei} San Diego, leaving Sunday, back Jan 5
[06:05] {magoo} btw, a scalped 2k out of RIMM last nite
[06:05] {magoo} thats what prolly caused the call
[06:05] {Threei} ummm... magoo, may I honor that trade of yours with...
[06:05] {esemde} have a great time.
[06:05] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[06:05] {magoo} went 106 to 120 afterhours
[06:06] {Threei} ty ese, I am sure I will :)
[06:06] {magoo} i luv those momo plays
[06:06] {Threei} meeting old friends
[06:07] {esemde} we'll miss you around here.....
[06:08] {Threei} I know it's not so but thatnk you for pretending :)
[06:08] {BillyD} ese, are u nice to vad because you are neighbors
[06:08] {BillyD} rofl
[06:08] {Threei} in turn, I promise to pretend I mised you all when I am back
[06:08] {BillyD} false flattery cannot fool Vad
[06:09] {Threei} in my eyes, one who doesn't shoot me likes me
[06:09] {esemde} he's a stranger in a new country....we are friendly in Canada
[06:10] {Threei} wow ese... if that's true I probably should stop hitting people over the head with shopping bags when in mall??
[06:10] {Threei} or tunring over their shopping carts as a friendly joke?
[06:10] {esemde} the mall is a whole different kind of country....thats not canadian
[06:10] {Threei} ah, I am OK then
[06:11] {esemde} except in that country.....they are unfriendly to me too
[06:11] {BillyD} Vad, same suspect stocks so far
[06:11] {Threei} yes billy
[06:11] {Threei} JASO is inspiring them this morning
[06:11] {BillyD} ok
[06:12] {cosmo} TIBX
[06:12] {magoo} SIGH
[06:12] {cosmo} hmm... not listed
[06:12] {magoo} room going to poohpoo kaka next week
[06:12] {Threei} lol
[06:12] {magoo} good thing i'm knocked out
[06:13] {Threei} consider it a test
[06:13] {cosmo} next week?
[06:13] {magoo} dino and roman running the show....gosd helkp us
[06:13] {cosmo} ah... i won't be here
[06:13] {cosmo} gone to AZ
[06:13] {magoo} anyone here watch HBO "the wire"?
[06:13] {cosmo} for sucker season
[06:14] {Threei} you guys learned so much, you can run it between yourself over two weeks holiday period
[06:14] {cosmo} 2?
[06:14] {Threei} wow cosmo
[06:14] {Threei} admit it, you just want to leave the area while I am there
[06:15] {cosmo} ?
[06:15] {cosmo} uh oh
[06:15] {Threei} I amd in san Diego next week? :)
[06:15] {cosmo} yikes... dcc
[06:15] {BillyD} yeah, I am not taking any chances here in AZ, so going to Chicago
[06:15] {Threei} rofl
[06:16] {Threei} did I started whole ring of migration? :)
[06:16] {BillyD} little too close for comfort
[06:16] {magoo} we getting a discount this month {as magoo runs to hide under rock}
[06:17] {magoo} WOW, no slap for that?
[06:18] {Threei} for what?
[06:18] {magoo} shoulda got slapped for that
[06:18] {Threei} for what?
[06:18] {magoo} winded from running for nothing
[06:19] {magoo} 09:16] {magoo} we getting a discount this month {as magoo runs to hide under rock}
[06:19] {magoo} [09:17] {magoo} WOW, no slap for that?
[06:19] {Threei} for what?
[06:19] {lumdus} 3i, sitting in chair stating - so do I really run this room ? maybe 3i is someone else
[06:19] {magoo} 09:19] {magoo} 09:16] {magoo} we getting a discount this month {as magoo runs to hide
[06:19] {magoo} discount this mont
[06:19] {Threei} lol lum
[06:19] {esemde} is the market open on monday morning....?
[06:20] {dptl} good morning all
[06:20] {Threei} dp :)
[06:20] {esemde} dp
[06:20] {lumdus} 3i, what's your first day back in the room. maybe i go on vacation till then also
[06:21] {magoo} cramer on cnbc..gonna pump RIMM
[06:21] {Threei} should be Jan 7th, Monday
[06:21] {lumdus} ok.
[06:21] {magoo} QUIT ignoring me on your last day vad...sheesh, no luv
[06:22] {Threei} anyone knows what's with magoo?
[06:22] {magoo} rimm will p[rint 130 today..THERE
[06:22] {esemde} i'll ask the question again...is the market open monday morning til noon.....?
[06:22] {magoo} your on your own,
[06:23] {magoo} i told dino last night at 108 that 120 would print
[06:23] {magoo} it did
[06:23] {Threei} let me find market calendar ese
[06:23] {lumdus} ese, until 1
[06:23] {magoo} BUT, newbies, i anm certifiable
[06:23] {magoo} do not trade that call
[06:24] {magoo} but if i am knocked out, and it does, i am SMASHING my computer
[06:24] {esemde} usually it say on the Nasdaq site but i can't find it...
[06:24] {Threei} http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/trader/news/upcomingevents/upcomingevents.stm
[06:25] {magoo} shit really, rimm will print 130 in first 10 minutes
[06:25] {Threei} The 2007 holiday schedule for NASDAQ is as follows:
[06:25] {Threei} December 25 Christmas Day
[06:26] {Threei} January 1 New Year's Day
[06:26] {dino} gm all, rimm finally gets moving
[06:26] {Threei} dino :)
[06:26] {esemde} dino....
[06:26] {esemde} closed just those days Vad....
[06:29] {esemde} FSLR up 4pts also
[06:29] {dino} gm ese
[06:29] {esemde} morning dino
[06:29] {esemde} your leading the trading room when vads gone?????
[06:29] {dino} itri
[06:32] {Threei} watching JASO/SOLF pair for possible following
[06:32] {Threei} SOLF looks to me like long if 26 getting hit
[06:33] {magoo} wait for first sign of strenghth RIMM..small 100 shares and ride its bounce
[06:33] {Threei} stop would be under .75 and possible slippage
[06:33] {Threei} so mind position size
[06:33] {dino} partial fill s itri 97.00
[06:34] {dino} very jumpy
[06:34] {magoo} one more pukllbk RIMM..then hit strengh100 shares only
[06:37] {Threei} .20 long SOLF
[06:37] {Threei} stop under 25
[06:37] {dino} cov 94.49 +2.51
[06:38] {magoo} long rimm now
[06:38] {magoo} i can't do it yet
[06:38] {dino} itri
[06:38] {dino} that is
[06:38] {magoo} but i would
[06:38] {magoo} 120
[06:38] {Threei} that was fast... anyone got SOLF?
[06:38] {BillyD} yes .21
[06:38] {Threei} gj
[06:39] {dino} tough crowd
[06:39] {esemde} not i
[06:39] {magoo} 100 shares RIMM stop can be 118.50
[06:39] {Threei} it's jealousy dino :)
[06:39] {dino} it's something...:)
[06:39] {dptl} ener?
[06:40] {esemde} i'm still waiting for ESLR to make 16.24
[06:40] {Threei} ENER .90 break yes
[06:40] {Threei} .74 stop
[06:42] {magoo} stop held
[06:42] {magoo} 118.50
[06:42] {BillyD} out 1/2 solf
[06:42] {Threei} come on ENER, scroll that 35
[06:42] {Threei} good boy
[06:44] {dptl} out+.20 ener ty
[06:44] {Threei} :)
[06:44] {Threei} half out ENER
[06:44] {esemde} nj dp...
[06:44] {Threei} stop to .89
[06:45] {Threei} 1/4 more out at .25
[06:45] {Threei} stop to .99
[06:45] {dino} gj dp
[06:46] {dptl} ty
[06:46] {Threei} half out SOLF .50
[06:46] {Threei} stop to .15
[06:48] {BillyD} out rest solf +.30 and .34 ty
[06:48] {Threei} welcome sai
[06:48] {dino} sm wide ldk l 46.00
[06:48] {BillyD} sheesh
[06:49] {Threei} offering 1/4 more SOLF at .80
[06:49] {BillyD} when am I gonna learn on these
[06:49] {Threei} and out in full 26.04
[06:49] {Threei} done with ENER for now
[06:50] {Threei} can I go home?
[06:50] {dptl} no....i missed solf lol
[06:50] {Threei} sigh
[06:51] {dino} stopped ldk -.70
[06:51] {Threei} argh SOLF
[06:51] {lumdus} if you would have said short ener you can go home for a week !
[06:51] {magoo} GO HOME
[06:52] {BillyD} Vad u like CSIQ if breaks
[06:52] {magoo} i just up NOW, no trades on
[06:52] {magoo} GET TO WORK
[06:52] {Threei} CSIQ 26.21, yes, but let's watch how this group acts
[06:52] {BillyD} ok
[06:53] {Threei} SOLF, there is an entry somewhere too
[06:53] {Threei} market pulls back
[06:54] {Threei} JASO
[06:54] {Threei} .30 break, risky one
[06:55] {Threei} aggrwessive entry is better idea probably
[06:56] {lumdus} jaso spread .34
[06:56] {Threei} in .03
[06:57] {Threei} stop under .75
[06:58] {dino} cedc
[06:59] {Threei} stop to under .80
[07:00] {Threei} *UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN DEC FINAL CONFIDENCE: 75.5 V 74.5E
[07:02] {Threei} come on JASO, 75 is waiting for you
[07:04] {Threei} let's see how you respond to violence
[07:04] * Threei kicks JASO in the rear with heavy duty steel-toed army boots
[07:05] {Threei} good response so far
[07:05] {Threei} half out.50
[07:05] {Threei} stop to .99
[07:07] {Threei} out in full 75
[07:08] {BillyD} nice Vad...no emtry here
[07:08] {Threei} +.97
[07:08] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[07:08] {Threei} can I go home??
[07:08] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[07:09] {BillyD} you are home
[07:09] {dptl} that was nice one was trying to get it but didnt
[07:09] {Threei} dino... I second your opinion... tough crowd
[07:09] {Threei} what are you talking about... it gave 74 offer AFTER I posted 74.03 entry
[07:10] {Threei} the onbly way you wouldn't get it is if you weren't trying :)
[07:10] {dptl} :)
[07:10] {BillyD} I have to change the way I think about these volatile ones
[07:10] {Threei} yeah - to not thinking
[07:10] {dino} holx drop
[07:11] {Threei} where did this notion come from that trading requires thinking at all...
[07:11] {liranm} Vad, it was very risky and the market is doing nothing
[07:11] {BillyD} u r right
[07:11] {Threei} so you regulate it with share size
[07:11] {Threei} but liranm... look at it this way
[07:12] {BillyD} volatility equal opportunity with proper risk management
[07:12] {Threei} as everything in life, things are balanced out
[07:12] {Threei} if you want no risk, you have no perofit opportunities
[07:12] {Threei} small risk usually equals small profit
[07:12] {magoo} vad u think it got 76?
[07:12] {liranm} but don't you prefer to trade when the market has direction?
[07:12] {Threei} they are parts of the same equation
[07:13] {Threei} in this case, it goes like this:
[07:13] {Threei} stock is very volatile,
[07:13] {Threei} meaning risk is bigger than average,
[07:13] {Threei} and it offers bigger profit opportunity,
[07:13] {Threei} so the best way to exploit itis:
[07:13] {Threei} minimze risk byt trying to get agressive entry
[07:14] {Threei} if it doesn't work, you get as small stop as possible,
[07:14] {Threei} in this rade it was about 30 cents
[07:14] {Threei} and with this stock, 30 cents is a very tight stop
[07:14] {Threei} and if it moves in your favor, potential is amazing
[07:14] {Threei} you saw 1:3 easily
[07:14] {Threei} and it still moves
[07:14] {magoo} [10:12] {magoo} vad u think it got 76?
[07:15] {Threei} I need pullback mags...
[07:15] {Threei} maybe
[07:15] {Threei} see, the mistake you make is
[07:15] {Threei} you are trying to have no losses
[07:15] {Threei} this is not the way to approach it
[07:16] {Threei} think of equation,
[07:16] {Threei} and try to regulate different parts of it
[07:16] {Threei} by chosing the type of entry and share size
[07:16] {Threei} you can minimize risk in difdferent ways,
[07:16] {Threei} either by trading withhigher probablities
[07:16] {Threei} which would be regular entry
[07:17] {Threei} or by trading with smaller stops
[07:17] {Threei} which would be aggressive entry
[07:17] {liranm} OK, thanks
[07:17] {magoo} entry on CSIQ?
[07:18] {Threei} CSIQ just won't form anything compelling so far
[07:18] {magoo} SOLF?
[07:18] {Threei} watching it, not getting vibe yet... CSIQ I mean
[07:19] {Threei} SAOLF shapes up better
[07:19] {Threei} .40 break is still of interest
[07:19] {Threei} just want it to show clean support
[07:19] {Threei} so far it's .15 but not firmly established yet
[07:20] {esemde} ERIC ...up against the highs classic pattern from VADS book
[07:20] {magoo} opk, i gonna work u hard today.,..then u take vacation
[07:20] {magoo} deal??
[07:20] {Threei} work?
[07:20] {Threei} work??
[07:20] {BillyD} no no
[07:20] {BillyD} he does exceptional when flowing
[07:21] {esemde} page 125 to be exact...
[07:21] {BillyD} don't let those words scare you
[07:21] {Threei} thinking of .35 ort so as long trigger ese?
[07:21] {esemde} yes
[07:21] {Threei} if holding above .25
[07:22] {esemde} sorry page 128..in the book
[07:22] {Threei} why is ERIC so narrow and thick? it uswed to be much more volatile
[07:23] {esemde} gonna go with the bstop at .34
[07:23] {Threei} allow me one more comment on this theme guys
[07:23] {esemde} fire away
[07:24] {Threei} do not look at trading as some technical thing that you need to master in terms of techical parameters
[07:24] {Threei} it's very narrow vision and won't get you very far
[07:24] {Threei} look at it as part of life, obeying same laws that rule the life in general
[07:24] {Threei} risk/reward balance,
[07:25] {Threei} isn't it way broader thing than just trading?
[07:25] {dino} sigm l .75
[07:25] {Threei} I mean, you won't be crossing the street on red light in order to shave 5 seconds of your walking route?
[07:25] {Threei} why not?
[07:25] {BillyD} like, is it worth paying to see if this trade works
[07:25] {Threei} because risking your life to save 5 seconds is ridiculous risk/reward
[07:26] {Threei} but, can you imagine a situation
[07:26] {Threei} where it would be worth the risk?
[07:26] {Threei} probably yes if what is on the other side is vitally important
[07:26] {liranm} like if there is a beutiful women in the other side
[07:26] {BillyD} bad risk
[07:26] {BillyD} lol
[07:26] {Threei} well, if that is very high in priorities :)
[07:27] {Threei} I said it somewhere in some article,
[07:27] {Threei} best trading books have nothing to do with trading
[07:27] {cosmo} i try to... "be the ball"
[07:27] {Threei} but they are very good in describing certain patterns in life, in human behaviour
[07:27] {esemde} can attest to that!~!!!
[07:28] {Threei} get 7 Habits of highly effective people
[07:28] {Threei} get Power of Now
[07:28] {Threei} you will find more value for your trading in those than you will in usual "indsicators and studies"
[07:28] {Threei} when you start understanding trading as part of life,
[07:29] {Threei} your trading habits as reflection of who you are
[07:29] {Threei} and achieve changes in your trading by changing yourself
[07:29] {Threei} that's when you get it.
[07:29] {Threei} and trust me,
[07:29] {Threei} as esoterci as it may sound
[07:30] {Threei} this is the truth majority of traders never wrap their mind around
[07:30] {Threei} and continue focusing on secondary things
[07:30] {Threei} routing... technicals... all this stuff
[07:30] {Threei} they asre needed of course
[07:30] {Threei} but they alone won't get you very far
[07:30] {Threei} they are just tools
[07:31] {Threei} if you have no idea what to do with tools
[07:31] {Threei} no matter how well you mastered tools themselves you won't be able to build anything
[07:31] {Threei} Done blabbing
[07:31] {cosmo} .... trust your car parts
[07:32] {dino} less is more
[07:32] {Threei} very true
[07:32] {dino} put the music on an trade
[07:32] {Threei} in fact, I found out that my process of learning trading is not gaining more knowledge
[07:32] {esemde} NO!!!!! don't read about 180 trading books like I did!!!!
[07:32] {Threei} it's rather cutting off unneeded knowledge
[07:32] {dino} ]i agree
[07:33] {Threei} the more fat I trimmed, the leaner and meaner my trading become
[07:33] {Threei} can't twell you how many things I abandoned in a process of learnbing :)
[07:33] {cosmo} like what the symbol stands for...
[07:34] {Threei} pretty much, lol
[07:34] {cosmo} :)
[07:34] {dino} crack you up, i ditched everything but downgrades. come in fresh everyday, no idea what stock i will trade
[07:36] {BillyD} so basically vad, it's just about managing risk
[07:36] {BillyD} forget the rest
[07:36] {Threei} well, this is big part of it
[07:36] {Threei} but there is more
[07:36] {Threei} feeling the flow
[07:36] {magoo} JASO read?
[07:36] {Threei} feeling the momo
[07:36] {Threei} understanding human reactions
[07:36] {BillyD} yes, assuming the readability
[07:36] {Threei} not yet mags
[07:37] {Threei} [10:36] {Threei} understanding human reactions
[07:37] {Threei} to put higher odds to your trading
[07:37] {Threei} because it's human reactions that giovern stock movement
[07:37] {Threei} tell you what... get TTR of your shelf,
[07:37] {Threei} re-read it
[07:37] {Threei} paying most attention to non-technical part
[07:38] {Threei} but rather to the part that talks about general things
[07:38] {Threei} trading philosophy
[07:38] {Threei} psychology
[07:38] {Threei} if first time around tyou mostly paid atention to technical part, setups, tape reading pri9nciples etc
[07:38] {Threei} you will be amazed to dicover whole new dimension to the book
[07:39] {Threei} mags
[07:39] {Threei} JASO
[07:39] {Threei} .50 break now if holding above .30
[07:39] {magoo} ok
[07:40] {dptl} thats what i have i think.... to much unneeded info in my head
[07:40] {magoo} in
[07:41] {BillyD} same here
[07:42] {BillyD} sheesh
[07:42] {BillyD} oh well
[07:43] {magoo} out
[07:43] {Threei} needs some rest
[07:44] {BillyD} mkt was providing help up as well
[07:44] {Threei} yep, that's what I don't like here, it lost synch
[07:45] {magoo} ive found..second try always worse odds
[07:45] {BillyD} u mean from initial run
[07:46] {magoo} yeah
[07:46] {magoo} its vads sprint vs marathon analogy
[07:49] {dino} trak
[07:50] {cosmo} tibx
[07:51] {dino} trak s .60
[07:53] {Threei} ADCT TICKING HIGHER ON POSITIVE NAJARIAN COMMENTS ON CNBC
[07:54] {BillyD} Monkey acting up
[07:54] {BillyD} see if holds here and takes large .30 offer
[07:55] {BillyD} JASO seems like consolidating
[07:55] {magoo} yeah..p[rolly surprise jump threu 75
[07:55] {magoo} tough tho'
[07:56] {BillyD} yes, do you wnat to get smacked again lol
[07:56] {dino} cedc s .50
[08:00] {esemde} ERIC bstop .34 invalidated....
[08:00] {magoo} seee god dammit
[08:01] {magoo} would you hit it here vad?
[08:02] {hawkfan4} FSLR taking off
[08:02] {Threei} hard to tell
[08:06] {Threei} looks to me like run in the cards
[08:06] {Threei} just can't nail a structure for exact trade
[08:07] {cosmo} solf?
[08:07] {magoo} no jaso'
[08:07] {cosmo} .40 still?
[08:07] {dino} hoku
[08:07] {BillyD} sheesh missed hoku
[08:08] {Threei} pullback into .30 HOKU
[08:08] {BillyD} yes order at .32
[08:08] {Threei} or consolidation and break of .50
[08:08] {dino} trak stopped .83 -.23
[08:09] {BillyD} one buy took most of big offer
[08:10] {Threei} cosmo... SOLF, if not losing .20 anymore
[08:10] {cosmo} :)
[08:10] {cosmo} ...so far
[08:11] {BillyD} Vad, u taking solf if breaks
[08:11] {Threei} yes
[08:12] {magoo} breaks what?
[08:12] {Threei} .40
[08:12] {magoo} ty
[08:12] {cosmo} ... with conviction too
[08:12] {lumdus} it broke, i took it now. my heart
[08:12] {lumdus} in solf .43 stop ?
[08:13] {Threei} under .20
[08:15] {Threei} breathe lum, breathe
[08:15] {lumdus} not watching .. :)
[08:15] {Threei} if you did you would see that you had 1:1 already :)
[08:16] {lumdus} oh, cool...
[08:16] {BillyD} out 1/2
[08:17] {Threei} HOKU getting ready it seems
[08:17] {BillyD} Vad, stop to .39 now on SOLF
[08:17] {esemde} have a great weekend and christmas...Best of the season to you all.....Vad have a great holiday...i'm off to do my last show of this christmas season take care everyone!!
[08:17] {Threei} take care ese, have a great holiday
[08:17] {Threei} see you in Jan :)
[08:17] {BillyD} bye ese
[08:17] {esemde} indeed
[08:17] {magoo} happy hol ES
[08:18] {dptl} Marry Christmas ..Ese
[08:18] {cosmo} happy solstice:)
[08:19] {dino} cya ese
[08:19] {dptl} hoku off .50?
[08:20] {Threei} yes
[08:20] {magoo} could u be more specific?
[08:20] {dptl} stop .39?
[08:20] {lumdus} in hoku .48 3 x lot
[08:20] {Threei} .39 is probably too tight
[08:21] {dptl} where then?
[08:21] {lumdus} .33 better ?
[08:21] {Threei} .33 yes
[08:21] {BillyD} VAD. under .20 still on SOLF or .38
[08:21] {Threei} breaks .55, then trail to .39
[08:21] {Threei} .29 SOLF
[08:22] {BillyD} ty
[08:22] {lumdus} 3i, hoku stop .33 ?
[08:22] {Threei} [11:21] {Threei} .33 yes
[08:22] {lumdus} tx boss
[08:23] {dptl} jaso?
[08:23] {BillyD} stopped solf -.14
[08:23] {dino} cedc bstop to .26
[08:23] {Threei} break woreth a try dp
[08:23] {dino} stopped +.22
[08:25] {Threei} come on monkey
[08:25] {dptl} in jaso .03
[08:25] {dptl} .75stop
[08:27] {dptl} stopped
[08:32] {Threei} looks like violence is the only way to make them move
[08:32] * Threei kicks HOKU in its red rear
[08:33] {magoo} magoo dangles fresh bananas from above
[08:34] {dino} iclr s .85, stop .16
[08:36] {dino} celg
[08:43] {dino} iclr tighten bstop to .03
[08:43] {dino} strange
[08:45] {dino} stopped iclr -.15, rinsed
[08:53] {dino} celg ;l .90
[08:54] {magoo} oh shit vad.................
[08:54] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:58] {Threei} really
[08:58] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:59] {dino} out celg .60, +.70
[09:00] {Threei} nice one
[09:00] {dino} ty
[09:04] {BillyD} took some HOKU off table -.05-.06
[09:07] {Threei} ok monkey, it's really time
[09:08] {magoo} are u in or want trigg
[09:08] {magoo} in .48
[09:08] {Threei} in from last millenium
[09:08] {BillyD} rofl
[09:08] {magoo} oh, i just went off your comment
[09:09] {BillyD} not fair magoo....we sitting it thru the wait
[09:09] {Threei} yeah
[09:09] {Threei} and he comes, grabs it on the fly and in the money already
[09:09] {magoo} i know..and u know magoo..very patent
[09:09] {BillyD} sheesh
[09:09] {Threei} disgusting isn't it
[09:09] {dino} sour apples
[09:09] {BillyD} jealousy, envy, makes me want to slap him
[09:10] {magoo} i would enjoty it
[09:10] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:10] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:10] {BillyD} count your money :)
[09:10] {magoo} who gonna slap me while vads away?
[09:10] {Threei} oh, i can do some in advance
[09:11] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] {dino} ofix drop
[09:11] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] {Threei} that will sustain you for a while
[09:11] {magoo} magoo pix himself off floor
[09:12] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:12] {BillyD} that should do it
[09:13] {magoo} magoo crawls back to chair...struggles to grab desk..falls down on a 10 count
[09:13] {dptl} GET UP
[09:13] {BillyD} dp wants to slap u now
[09:14] {dptl} lol
[09:14] {Threei} let me know when you atre back in your chair magoo
[09:14] {BillyD} lol
[09:14] {magoo} just got up and in
[09:15] {magoo} a lil dazed
[09:15] {magoo} in daze, just bght additional 12k sh hoku
[09:16] {magoo} prolly have a daytrade call of no less than 3.2343 million
[09:16] {Threei} in your chair?
[09:16] {Threei} firmly?
[09:16] {magoo} yueah
[09:16] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:16] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:16] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:17] {dptl} lol
[09:17] {BillyD} CSIQ action
[09:17] {BillyD} a bit extended here
[09:17] {magoo} magoo hangs on with feet in air, chair repeadily spinning around and around
[09:18] {magoo} csiq..damm
[09:18] {Threei} again this no news run
[09:19] {BillyD} comes out of nowhere
[09:19] {magoo} almost seems like solf & csiq alternate
[09:19] {BillyD} "they" are moving them back and forth
[09:20] {magoo} no i mean..1 day solf power..next day csiq
[09:20] {BillyD} as Roman says: the boyz
[09:20] {dino} l cvco .17, stop .99
[09:21] {Threei} CSIQ next round it seems
[09:21] {magoo} take now?
[09:22] {Threei} pure momo
[09:22] {Threei} if you feel it, take it
[09:22] {Threei} if not... not
[09:23] {magoo} cant feel anythiong after barrage i received
[09:23] {Threei} lol
[09:23] {Threei} HOKU stop to .39 now
[09:24] {dptl} i am out.62
[09:24] {Threei} :)
[09:24] {BillyD} nice dp...no longer hostage
[09:25] {dptl} well i scrude up on first trade ...got out .37 then got back in .47
[09:25] {dino} prkr
[09:25] {Threei} that's pure emotional trading dp...
[09:26] {dptl} ye still trying to ajust
[09:26] {Threei} ok CSIQ, you have 27 to bust... hurry
[09:27] {dino} back in 10
[09:27] {Threei} good boy
[09:27] {dptl} where did you got in csiq
[09:27] {Threei} girl?
[09:28] {Threei} .65... no call
[09:28] {Threei} pure momo feel
[09:28] {magoo} u out?
[09:28] {dptl} i need to get thet feel some how
[09:28] {magoo} i took .77
[09:28] {Threei} out 3/4 27.01
[09:29] {Threei} stop under .70 for the last portion
[09:29] {magoo} waiting .17
[09:29] {magoo} will adjust
[09:29] {magoo} oh well
[09:29] {magoo} OUT
[09:29] {dptl} nice
[09:29] {magoo} TY VADSTERMIESTERBRA
[09:29] {dptl} o boy
[09:30] {Threei} not bad trading for dazzled magoo
[09:30] {Threei} trout does ya fine
[09:30] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:30] {magoo} magoo notices blood drippingf on deask..tooth feels loose
[09:30] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:31] {BillyD} tooth no longer loose
[09:31] {magoo} CHRIST ALMIGHTY
[09:31] {Threei} his ears are still sticking out
[09:31] * dptl slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:31] {BillyD} maggo now looking for tooth on floor
[09:31] * LaserDave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:31] {Threei} rofl
[09:31] {dptl} lol
[09:32] {magoo} magoo straggers...falls out chair..dino kicks him on way out
[09:32] {Threei} [12:10] {magoo} who gonna slap me while vads away? {---- be careful for what you wish for
[09:32] {LaserDave1} we all know how much you like da trouts mags
[09:32] {magoo} dcc dave when gwet chance
[09:32] {LaserDave1} sure
[09:33] {Threei} {LaserDave1} sure but please... shower first
[09:34] {LaserDave1} :)
[09:34] {BillyD} SOLF now
[09:38] {Threei} as predicted before market... solar day again
[09:39] {hawkfan4} a beautiful solar flare
[09:39] {Threei} lol
[09:40] {magoo} jaso next vad??
[09:40] {LaserDave1} solf nice
[09:40] {Threei} JASO is tough here mags
[09:40] {Threei} can't tell
[09:40] {magoo} i can..its next
[09:41] {Threei} feels like it has more in it but I cannot nail any kind of setup worth trying here
[09:42] {Threei} we got several beautiful plays... let's wait for easier money to show up again, most of them feels like struggle right now
[09:42] {Threei} and we still got monkey thinking what to do
[09:43] {Threei} if you feel very risk adverse here, trail stop to .45 on HOKY the monkey
[09:43] {Threei} HOKU sorry
[09:43] {magoo} hoky is his brother
[09:43] {Threei} lol
[09:44] {Threei} and if it gets us stopped, don't forget to slap dp who got his scalp and laughs at us now
[09:44] {dptl} :)
[09:44] {Threei} see?
[09:45] {Threei} one consolation is, if HOKU goes higher we will not let him forget that he took a scalp
[09:45] {LaserDave1} guy showing 10 inet big buyer SOLF
[09:45] {Threei} or if you feel particularly nice today, I will not let him forget
[09:45] {Threei} where dave?
[09:46] {Threei} I don't see him
[09:46] {LaserDave1} he was at 00s
[09:46] {LaserDave1} big time
[09:46] {LaserDave1} then moved up to .22
[09:46] {LaserDave1} they got him
[09:46] {Threei} real then
[09:46] {LaserDave1} not sure if hes gonna still be at 00s
[09:46] {Threei} nice
[09:46] {LaserDave1} you have a target here Vad
[09:46] {LaserDave1} im in at 00s
[09:47] {Threei} well, I still think SOLF is destined for 30-35... it's just not a daytrade
[09:47] {LaserDave1} gotcha
[09:47] {LaserDave1} if hes not at 00s i will get ouot
[09:47] {Threei} and with its volatility not going to be an easy ride
[09:47] {LaserDave1} out of 200
[09:48] {LaserDave1} trying to hold rest
[09:48] {LaserDave1} .90 stop now
[09:48] {Threei} on intraday basis, SOLF is either deep pullback buy for a bigger move as we did yesterday,
[09:48] {Threei} or momo breakout for scalp
[09:48] {Threei} but only if you get this feel
[09:48] {Threei} you know... white foam at SOLF's mouth
[09:48] {LaserDave1} hiding at .27 if they do a bar up
[09:49] {LaserDave1} haha nice
[09:49] {Threei} normal technical breakouts are to be avoided on these stocks
[09:49] {Threei} they fail 9 out of 10
[09:49] {magoo} need to see lev 2 scrolling fast and green
[09:50] {Threei} yeah, feeding frenzy
[09:50] {magoo} no worry about exacrt entry just get in and lay out ahead
[09:50] {LaserDave1} i think hes back at .05 now
[09:51] {magoo} which stock?
[09:51] {LaserDave1} at .24 now
[09:51] {Threei} like dave knows
[09:51] {Threei} he trades without looking at symbol
[09:51] {LaserDave1} cancelled
[09:51] {LaserDave1} hes at .20 now
[09:51] {Threei} but he is talking SOLF :)
[09:51] {LaserDave1} gonna try to hold unless they smash him
[09:51] {magoo} oh..thats magoo
[09:53] {Threei} robr... hi, welcome to the room, and give me a minute of your attention please
[09:53] {Threei} your trial started just when I am about to leave for Christmas/New Year vacation
[09:53] {Threei} so feel free to hang out with these bandits while I am way,
[09:53] {Threei} don't listen to anything they say about me when I am not here,
[09:53] {dptl} lol
[09:53] {LaserDave1} selling .35 if i can
[09:54] {Threei} and aftrer I am back, your trial will be prolonged for another week
[09:54] {LaserDave1} .28 now
[09:54] {LaserDave1} 300 left
[09:54] {Threei} if I forget, feel free to remind me at vad@realitytrader.com
[09:54] {LaserDave1} cmon
[09:54] {LaserDave1} 1 left
[09:54] {Threei} 1?
[09:54] {Threei} lol
[09:55] {LaserDave1} .26 anyone
[09:55] {LaserDave1} chasing my tail
[09:55] {LaserDave1} .22
[09:56] {LaserDave1} ok oout
[09:56] {LaserDave1} lol
[09:56] {magoo} too funny
[09:56] {LaserDave1} thanks guys
[09:56] {LaserDave1} ya i was everywhere
[09:56] {LaserDave1} would of held if they didnt smash that inet reserve guy
[09:56] {LaserDave1} still nice trade
[09:56] {LaserDave1} thanks guysssssss
[09:58] {magoo} monkey got us
[10:00] {BillyD} u might as well put a stake in my heart with this monkey death trade
[10:02] {magoo} no kidding..i hate that stock
[10:03] {dino} mtrx s .50
[10:03] {BillyD} I try and exercise some discipline while voice telling me ......sell and move on
[10:04] {Threei} magoo... one thing should make you feel better... hint: dp got a scalp on it
[10:04] {dptl} o man ...going for smoke
[10:04] {Threei} lol
[10:04] * BillyD slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[10:04] * magoo slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[10:04] {Threei} see how skillfully I set you up
[10:05] {Threei} you are slapped and my hands are fish smlee-free
[10:06] {dino} sqnm s .95 stop hod
[10:06] {magoo} out hoku .42 I CAN NOT TASKE IT
[10:06] {Threei} yeah, lost inspiration
[10:07] {Threei} dp had right idea on it
[10:12] {Threei} CSIQ may be preparing for another leg
[10:12] {Threei} .50 break, stop under .25, very risky
[10:16] {dino} mtrx stopped -.31
[10:17] {dino} giii
[10:17] {BillyD} Vad, what do you do if you find yourself in a "pushing it" mode which clouds jdgmnt
[10:18] {BillyD} back away?
[10:18] {magoo} he drinks
[10:18] {Threei} if you are able to recognize that you are in this mode, you are out of it already
[10:18] {BillyD} roflol
[10:18] {cosmo} nap time i say
[10:19] {Threei} and kidding I am not
[10:20] {BillyD} I believe you
[10:20] {Threei} it may sound overly cujte, and cute sayings are rarely true
[10:20] {Threei} but this one is
[10:21] {Threei} when you are in this or that form of deviation from perception of reality as reality is,
[10:21] {magoo} huh?
[10:21] {Threei} you are not able to recognize the deviation, things feel normal to you
[10:21] {dino} giii s .80
[10:21] {Threei} nevermind magoo
[10:22] {Threei} that excessive trouting still keeps you underwater
[10:22] {LaserDave1} u like RIMM Vad
[10:22] {LaserDave1} ?
[10:22] {BillyD} to snap out of it is by coming to realization your are deviated right
[10:22] {LaserDave1} if it can get 120 it might be real big
[10:22] {LaserDave1} but massive wall there
[10:23] {Threei} looks like dave... risk is a bit out of my comfort zone
[10:23] {LaserDave1} gotcha ok
[10:23] {LaserDave1} ya it was going nuts earlier
[10:24] {LaserDave1} now its so tame
[10:24] {LaserDave1} but this think can become an animal again at anytime
[10:24] {magoo} dave i was flipping it aftrhr
[10:24] {cosmo} thinking?
[10:24] {magoo} 120 was max last nite
[10:24] {magoo} ate up huge offer at 120., but not even 120.01
[10:25] {LaserDave1} pre market it was near 125
[10:25] {LaserDave1} this morn
[10:25] {magoo} i talking last nite tho
[10:25] {LaserDave1} im long at .79 so i got some wiggle room here
[10:25] {LaserDave1} gotcha
[10:26] {magoo} minute chart looks like beggin to bar up
[10:26] {LaserDave1} all i want is 2 points i mean is that so much to ask for
[10:26] {LaserDave1} :)
[10:27] {magoo} usually 120 should be magnate
[10:29] {lumdus} so break of 120 on rimm should be a go. . correct ?
[10:29] {lumdus} in rimm 119.79 stop .64
[10:30] {magoo} magnate=pulls stock privce up to that level
[10:30] {LaserDave1} we need a little love from the markets
[10:30] {lumdus} i'll take love anyway i get it.
[10:30] {Threei} {markets} do I know you?
[10:31] {Threei} {markets} how about dinner and movie first?
[10:31] {lumdus} he hee
[10:31] {LaserDave1} haha
[10:31] {BillyD} lum is a triple lot guy
[10:31] {lumdus} i'll put my stop at b/e .. yes, triple lot in this
[10:32] {lumdus} if it doesn't break now, i lost my chance with this
[10:32] {lumdus} 3i, told me never turn a profit into a loss. so that's it
[10:33] {Threei} I did?
[10:34] {Threei} you know that before taking my advice you are required ask how many drinks I had during last 2 hours, right?
[10:34] {lumdus} don't get your drift here..
[10:34] {magoo} vad, u need to go out in blaze of glory
[10:35] {Threei} there is no drift... I am merrily blabbing away on pre-vacation day
[10:35] {magoo} we need aniother pick like yesterday point and half in LDK
[10:35] {Threei} mags... "there will be water if God wills it"... :)
[10:36] {Threei} trust me, if I see a play I won't be hiding it from you
[10:36] {lumdus} go rimm go .. common,
[10:36] {Threei} but you don't want to me to run around and push for a play
[10:36] {lumdus} stopped -.01
[10:36] {Threei} that's recipe for unneeded stops
[10:37] {LaserDave1} stopped
[10:37] {dino} syna beat up
[10:40] {lumdus} 3i, so like on days as today untill jan 3 , does it really make sense to trade knowing thta we will be pushing it ?
[10:40] {Threei} hmm?
[10:40] {Threei} not sure I understand... why trading in this period would be pushing it?
[10:41] {lumdus} since it's slow and not many setups - so i tend to push a little
[10:41] {Threei} didn't we get quite a few?
[10:41] {Threei} every day
[10:42] {Threei} you sound like any trade these days would be "pushing it"
[10:42] {Threei} it's not so
[10:42] {lumdus} I am talking christmas to New years not in the past
[10:42] {dptl} csiq?
[10:42] {Threei} why do you assume they will be so drastically different from let's say this week?
[10:43] {Threei} they may offer less good setups
[10:43] {Threei} or more
[10:43] {Threei} or the same
[10:43] {magoo} I DON'T
[10:43] {Threei} who has crystal ball, feel free to let me know
[10:43] {Threei} not sure dp
[10:45] {Threei} could be start of another round or could be half-hearted attempt... not much indication here, not real pace
[10:45] {dptl} ok ty
[10:50] {dino} anything can happen
[10:52] {dptl} rimm is trying again
[10:53] {LaserDave1} rimm is driving me a bit loopy
[10:54] {Threei} FCEL
[10:54] {Threei} 13 break if holding above ,90
[10:56] {dino} syna l .25
[10:56] {dptl} in.01
[10:56] {LaserDave1} target fcel Vad
[10:56] {Threei} 1:1 most likely
[10:58] {dino} giii stopped
[11:01] {dptl} offering .12
[11:04] {magoo} thingds getting jiggy here vad
[11:04] {Threei} good joggy or bad jiggy? :)
[11:05] {magoo} good
[11:05] {dino} cov sqnm .70, +.25
[11:05] {Threei} come on FCEL, you broke very important resistance... more life please
[11:06] {LaserDave1} .06 is holding it
[11:06] {LaserDave1} we need it to break .10
[11:06] {dptl} ubss at.10
[11:06] {magoo} another HOKU
[11:06] {Threei} so dave, where are you with your 50K buy??
[11:06] {Threei} hit it
[11:06] {LaserDave1} sorry got 1000 at teh 00s
[11:06] {dino} mkt going up
[11:07] {magoo} JASO looks like starting
[11:08] {dino} pmti
[11:09] * Chaeron slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:13] {BillyD} VAd, SOLF at .75?
[11:14] {BillyD} seems b/os not best on it
[11:14] {Threei} can't tell here
[11:14] {BillyD} no foam
[11:16] {dino} pmti l .20 risky
[11:16] {dptl} .90 stop right?
[11:16] {dino} labl strange
[11:16] {dino} y
[11:18] {dino} stopped sorry dp
[11:19] {dptl} o..no i mean fcel
[11:19] {dino} ok
[11:19] {Threei} .89
[11:22] {dptl} big offer here
[11:22] {dino} labl s .90
[11:26] {Threei} fiiiinally
[11:26] {Threei} half out FCEL
[11:27] {dptl} dp is out ...ty
[11:27] {Threei} if you are not masichist and do not enjoy chinese watr torture, take full profit, like dp did :)
[11:30] {Threei} stop to .97 second half
[11:31] {dino} cedc
[11:33] {magoo} we really let alot get away on SOLF
[11:33] {magoo} 14:13] {BillyD} VAd, SOLF at .75?
[11:34] {Threei} well mags... remember I said a day or two ago
[11:34] {magoo} stop tright there
[11:34] {Threei} SOLF is looking at 28-29 nearest time, 30-35 later
[11:34] {magoo} i do or CAN NOT hold overnite in my situation
[11:35] {Threei} there
[11:35] {Threei} this is the problem,
[11:35] {Threei} when these stocks move
[11:35] {Threei} they do not always allow for a clean read
[11:35] {Threei} so out of whole move we take those parts that we can read
[11:35] {Threei} the only other way to inhale qwhole thing is to hold for a swing
[11:36] {Threei} which we are not rweady/willing/able to do
[11:39] {magoo} agree
[11:44] {Threei} I came up with 2008 resolution
[11:44] {Threei} here it is:
[11:44] {dino} oh no
[11:44] {magoo} hope mty name not in it
[11:45] {Threei} find and destroy unfulfilled resolutions of 2007, 2006, 2005... etc all the way down to 1990
[11:52] {magoo} JASO
[11:58] {dino} syna stop to .48
[11:58] {LaserDave1} been watching SOLF again
[11:59] {LaserDave1} someone jsut keeps buying and buying at this level
[11:59] {LaserDave1} im long stop .90
[12:00] {dino} shorts?
[12:00] {dino} \cvco stop to .38
[12:01] {dino} labl will not move
[12:01] {BillyD} kick it
[12:01] {dino} cvco stopped w/slip ave .28, +.11, hose job
[12:02] {magoo} entry on solf dave?
[12:03] {Threei} mags, you realize you are asking advice from a guy who type SOLF right off 5th attempt?
[12:03] {hawkfan4} vad, have a great vacation. Unreal day, +6k, all solars. Been learning alot from you guys and one of these days will be sharing more as well, Happy Holidays all Rt'ers
[12:03] {Threei} at least it takes me just three
[12:03] {dino} out syna ave. 53, +.28
[12:03] {Threei} hawk... this is best reward I got this year for the room efforts
[12:03] {magoo} WOW hawk, nice
[12:04] {Threei} thank you for sharing :)
[12:04] {dino} great job hawk. happy holidays
[12:04] {Threei} Merry Christmas
[12:04] {BillyD} very nice hawk:)
[12:04] {Threei} or happy hanukkah
[12:04] {LaserDave1} nice trading Hawk
[12:04] {LaserDave1} congrats
[12:04] {Threei} or whetever else there is that I wouldn't be able to type
[12:04] {patience} nice hawkfan, have a good Christmas
[12:04] {dptl} happy holidays hawk.
[12:06] {Threei} if FCEL goes to 1:2, do I get cookie?
[12:07] {magoo} i hated that trade
[12:07] {dino} die labl, dieeeeeee
[12:08] {magoo} sorry boss...but after hawk making your day..i hate to say it
[12:08] {BillyD} no cookie from magoo
[12:08] {magoo} {NO SOUP FOR YOU}
[12:09] {cosmo} is there a mkt on monday?
[12:09] {cosmo} half day?
[12:09] {dptl} half a day i think
[12:09] {cosmo} thx ... i can't
[12:10] {magoo} DAVE dcc
[12:11] {Threei} that's fine magoo, I slapped you enough today so I can take it :)
[12:11] {magoo} yes u did
[12:14] {Threei} the way I look at it:
[12:14] {dino} let go labl
[12:14] {Threei} I am a chiwef in a restaurant
[12:14] {dino} nice spread
[12:14] {Threei} I cook for different tastes
[12:15] {Threei} you don't like certain dish, you don't hate a chief, you simpkly don't order the dish :)
[12:15] {magoo} no.i hate the chef
[12:15] {Threei} that's your right of course
[12:15] {Threei} just as chief's right to unholster the trout...
[12:15] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:15] {BillyD} lol
[12:16] {Threei} chief - chef of course....
[12:25] {dino} cybs
[12:27] {dino} labl bstop to .65
[12:29] {BillyD} is SOLF a crapshoot for b/o
[12:31] {LaserDave1} that solf stopped me oout again
[12:31] {LaserDave1} dang
[12:31] {LaserDave1} not its ripping
[12:31] {BillyD} yeah, reason I didn't take it here
[12:31] {BillyD} would like PB
[12:33] {BillyD} almost impossible to trade with any reasonable setup
[12:35] {magoo} monster offer 99
[12:36] {magoo} meant 29
[12:36] {Threei} lol
[12:37] {Threei} SOLF cares not
[12:37] {dptl} ye like nothing there
[12:37] {BillyD} until you buy it
[12:37] {dptl} lol
[12:37] {BillyD} :)
[12:38] {lumdus} in solf 29.22
[12:38] {magoo} oh shit
[12:38] {Threei} CSIQ time
[12:38] {BillyD} it seems the b/os I have taken on it go up a littlle and fall back
[12:38] {lumdus} stop at .19
[12:38] {lumdus} 2 pts away
[12:39] {lumdus} common run solf run
[12:40] {lumdus} stop .29
[12:40] {lumdus} out +.05 i made money on solf !!!
[12:40] {Threei} that's horrific chasing lum
[12:41] {magoo} what about CSIQ vad?a
[12:41] {Threei} NQ drops sharply mags
[12:41] {dino} labl to bstop .55
[12:41] {lumdus} yeah, i know
[12:41] {Threei} 20min till eod
[12:41] {Threei} I woluld refrain
[12:42] {dino} 3i, so i don't forget, you have a great holiday / vacation
[12:43] {Threei} thank you :)
[12:43] {BillyD} Vad, u right on CSIQ
[12:44] {BillyD} enough to ruin someones eod
[12:44] {Threei} it gave quick spike, tried to follow SOLF
[12:44] {Threei} but then gravity took over
[12:44] {magoo} yes vad..have great vaca & holiday
[12:44] {Threei} thank you... first one in a year and half
[12:47] {lumdus} solf going
[12:49] {lumdus} Vad, have nice vacation. We are going to miss you here, but i doubt be trading too much until you get back
[12:49] {Threei} thanks
[12:49] {dptl} looks like we'll take vacation too
[12:49] {dino} labl bstop to .50, lock in daily
[12:49] {Threei} just trade if there is a good setup
[12:50] {Threei} and don't if there is none
[12:50] {Threei} simple as that
[12:50] {lumdus} Not really, you need big brother watching all the time. Simple as that
[12:50] {cosmo} i go to the desert
[12:50] {dino} cov ave .52, +.38
[12:51] {dino} calling it a day, aside from monday good week
Session Time: Fri Dec 21 00:00:00 2007
[05:10] {Threei} JASO SIGNS SALES AGREEMENT WITH SOLARIA FOR UP TO 60MW IN 2008
[05:11] {hawkfan4} ugg, sold it into the close yesterday
[05:11] {Threei} for profit?
[05:12] {hawkfan4} small, but yes
[05:12] {Threei} :)
[05:12] {Threei} with this news and strong market opening, we very well may be looking at solar day again
[05:13] {Threei} JASO is over 52 week high
[05:13] {Threei} SOLF gapping nicely
[05:13] {hawkfan4} they have been a good group, usually nice to trade
[05:14] {Threei} ESLR gap
[05:14] {Threei} CSIQ gap
[05:14] {Threei} they've been a godsend lately
[05:15] {hawkfan4} they really have
[05:15] {Threei} with questionable overall market follow-through this group gave steady flow of opportunities
[05:15] {Threei} there is usually this or that mania around to bring us bacon
[05:16] {Threei} best manias are those that stick around
[05:16] {Threei} not one day wonder
[05:17] {Threei} then we have enough time to find all the participants, get used to the way they trade, determine leaders
[05:17] {hawkfan4} the patterns still look great for these, hope we can milk more out of it for a while
[05:18] {Threei} I'd think so, they are supported well on pullbacks, and even with quite sizeable runs don't look like they ran out of gas
[05:18] {Threei} "legitimate mania"
[05:18] {Threei} unlike those now and then sparkling stem cells or ip-phone manias
[05:19] {Threei} that last couple days only to dissolve for years
[05:19] {hawkfan4} lol, flash in the pan
[05:19] {Threei} exactly
[05:19] {Threei} umm... sorry... eqzaktly is correct way to spell things
[05:19] {Threei} I mean korrekt
[05:20] {hawkfan4} solars have been nice in that when one gets hot it usually pulls the laggards up with them.
[05:20] {Threei} that's how decent mania works
[05:20] {hawkfan4} I understlandz perfektlee
[05:20] {Threei} snake principle
[05:20] {Threei} yes, I can see that klearly :)
[05:22] {Threei} RIMM is probably what gives a push this morning
[05:24] {Threei} BROADPOINT CAPITAL INITIATES CSIQ WITH EQUAL WEIGHT, PRICE TARGET: $27
[05:24] {Threei} 27? CSIQ can make it in 3 trades {G}
[05:25] {hawkfan4} lukewarm
[05:25] {Threei} when it's at 30 they'll issue new target 31
[05:27] {hawkfan4} lol, you're probably right. i love reading the upgrades, like upgrading RIGL after a 20 point surge. That's value added stuff
[05:27] {Threei} yeah, inkredibly meaningless stuff
[05:27] {Threei} uh oh... if Raven scrolls up, we are dead
[05:27] {Raven} sheesh !
[05:27] {Threei} {--- hiding
[05:28] {hawkfan4} oops {gulp}
[05:28] {Raven} You get up too early
[05:28] {Threei} no kidding
[05:28] {Threei} but I have two weeks of legitimate sleeping-in ahead of me
[05:29] {Raven} go on vacation to a new place and sleep ... that makes no sense
[05:29] {Threei} well, to me sleeping in means gewtting up at 8... :)
[05:29] {Raven} hmmm
[05:30] {Threei} I don't think my hosts will appreciate it if I wake up at 5 and start yelling "come on, let's go somewhere"
[05:31] {Raven} well .... you have a point there
[05:35] {Threei} 26 big offer canceled at SOLF
[05:37] {magoo} morn
[05:37] {Threei} mags :)
[05:37] {magoo} 725K daytrade today
[05:37] {magoo} now if bogus, and better be, still won't be up until 10 -11 .
[05:38] {magoo} and vad will aleady be done with good sdtuff
[05:38] {magoo} its like they are forcing me out
[05:39] {BillyD} morning guyds
[05:39] {BillyD} guys
[05:39] {Threei} billy :)
[05:43] {liranm} gm everyone
[05:43] {BillyD} Vad, u driving to San Diego
[05:43] {BillyD} liranm :)
[05:43] {Threei} liranm :)
[05:44] {Threei} no Billy, changed this part of the plan
[05:44] {Threei} taking train
[05:44] {Threei} they say this rouyte is very scenic
[05:44] {BillyD} oh, how many miles to drive
[05:44] {Threei} and relaxing
[05:44] {BillyD} that will be nice
[05:44] {Threei} it's not very far, about 1300 miles I think
[05:45] {Threei} and in summertime I would take it with no hesitation
[05:45] {BillyD} I thought would be further.....but hey anything over a couple is too far for me :)
[05:45] {BillyD} hunderd
[05:45] {Threei} but getting dark early and possible delay in the mountains mean 2 motel nights instead of one
[05:46] {BillyD} how long is train ride?
[05:46] {Threei} with possible serious delay if snow hits Oregon/Northern Ca passes
[05:46] {Threei} about 36 hours
[05:47] {BillyD} enjoy yourself with wife?
[05:47] {Threei} shorter than driving, cheaper and relaxation instead of two days of work
[05:47] {Threei} yeah
[05:47] {BillyD} another honeymoon
[05:52] {esemde} morning all...
[05:52] {Threei} ese :)
[06:01] {lumdus} magoo, why you still with that brokerage ?
[06:01] {lumdus} Today is vad last day ?
[06:02] {Threei} well... in this room this year, yeah :)
[06:02] {Threei} in all other senses it's not that gloomy
[06:03] {magoo} well, how fast u think i can set up a new acct?
[06:03] {magoo} just sent recieved/paperwork
[06:03] {magoo} need to wire funds
[06:03] {magoo} etc.
[06:04] {magoo} this only started last week
[06:04] {magoo} but shiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeet..i get shut doewn everyday now
[06:04] {magoo} miss all easy money
[06:04] {lumdus} ok magoo.
[06:04] {magoo} killing me..
[06:04] {Threei} (whispering) even though I advised to do the switch months ago
[06:04] {esemde} Are you taking a holiday Vad?...
[06:05] {magoo} u pushing your luck l;ittle man {soup nazi} HE HE
[06:05] {Threei} yes ese
[06:05] {esemde} cool...where are you off too
[06:05] {Threei} San Diego, leaving Sunday, back Jan 5
[06:05] {magoo} btw, a scalped 2k out of RIMM last nite
[06:05] {magoo} thats what prolly caused the call
[06:05] {Threei} ummm... magoo, may I honor that trade of yours with...
[06:05] {esemde} have a great time.
[06:05] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[06:05] {magoo} went 106 to 120 afterhours
[06:06] {Threei} ty ese, I am sure I will :)
[06:06] {magoo} i luv those momo plays
[06:06] {Threei} meeting old friends
[06:07] {esemde} we'll miss you around here.....
[06:08] {Threei} I know it's not so but thatnk you for pretending :)
[06:08] {BillyD} ese, are u nice to vad because you are neighbors
[06:08] {BillyD} rofl
[06:08] {Threei} in turn, I promise to pretend I mised you all when I am back
[06:08] {BillyD} false flattery cannot fool Vad
[06:09] {Threei} in my eyes, one who doesn't shoot me likes me
[06:09] {esemde} he's a stranger in a new country....we are friendly in Canada
[06:10] {Threei} wow ese... if that's true I probably should stop hitting people over the head with shopping bags when in mall??
[06:10] {Threei} or tunring over their shopping carts as a friendly joke?
[06:10] {esemde} the mall is a whole different kind of country....thats not canadian
[06:10] {Threei} ah, I am OK then
[06:11] {esemde} except in that country.....they are unfriendly to me too
[06:11] {BillyD} Vad, same suspect stocks so far
[06:11] {Threei} yes billy
[06:11] {Threei} JASO is inspiring them this morning
[06:11] {BillyD} ok
[06:12] {cosmo} TIBX
[06:12] {magoo} SIGH
[06:12] {cosmo} hmm... not listed
[06:12] {magoo} room going to poohpoo kaka next week
[06:12] {Threei} lol
[06:12] {magoo} good thing i'm knocked out
[06:13] {Threei} consider it a test
[06:13] {cosmo} next week?
[06:13] {magoo} dino and roman running the show....gosd helkp us
[06:13] {cosmo} ah... i won't be here
[06:13] {cosmo} gone to AZ
[06:13] {magoo} anyone here watch HBO "the wire"?
[06:13] {cosmo} for sucker season
[06:14] {Threei} you guys learned so much, you can run it between yourself over two weeks holiday period
[06:14] {cosmo} 2?
[06:14] {Threei} wow cosmo
[06:14] {Threei} admit it, you just want to leave the area while I am there
[06:15] {cosmo} ?
[06:15] {cosmo} uh oh
[06:15] {Threei} I amd in san Diego next week? :)
[06:15] {cosmo} yikes... dcc
[06:15] {BillyD} yeah, I am not taking any chances here in AZ, so going to Chicago
[06:15] {Threei} rofl
[06:16] {Threei} did I started whole ring of migration? :)
[06:16] {BillyD} little too close for comfort
[06:16] {magoo} we getting a discount this month {as magoo runs to hide under rock}
[06:17] {magoo} WOW, no slap for that?
[06:18] {Threei} for what?
[06:18] {magoo} shoulda got slapped for that
[06:18] {Threei} for what?
[06:18] {magoo} winded from running for nothing
[06:19] {magoo} 09:16] {magoo} we getting a discount this month {as magoo runs to hide under rock}
[06:19] {magoo} [09:17] {magoo} WOW, no slap for that?
[06:19] {Threei} for what?
[06:19] {lumdus} 3i, sitting in chair stating - so do I really run this room ? maybe 3i is someone else
[06:19] {magoo} 09:19] {magoo} 09:16] {magoo} we getting a discount this month {as magoo runs to hide
[06:19] {magoo} discount this mont
[06:19] {Threei} lol lum
[06:19] {esemde} is the market open on monday morning....?
[06:20] {dptl} good morning all
[06:20] {Threei} dp :)
[06:20] {esemde} dp
[06:20] {lumdus} 3i, what's your first day back in the room. maybe i go on vacation till then also
[06:21] {magoo} cramer on cnbc..gonna pump RIMM
[06:21] {Threei} should be Jan 7th, Monday
[06:21] {lumdus} ok.
[06:21] {magoo} QUIT ignoring me on your last day vad...sheesh, no luv
[06:22] {Threei} anyone knows what's with magoo?
[06:22] {magoo} rimm will p[rint 130 today..THERE
[06:22] {esemde} i'll ask the question again...is the market open monday morning til noon.....?
[06:22] {magoo} your on your own,
[06:23] {magoo} i told dino last night at 108 that 120 would print
[06:23] {magoo} it did
[06:23] {Threei} let me find market calendar ese
[06:23] {lumdus} ese, until 1
[06:23] {magoo} BUT, newbies, i anm certifiable
[06:23] {magoo} do not trade that call
[06:24] {magoo} but if i am knocked out, and it does, i am SMASHING my computer
[06:24] {esemde} usually it say on the Nasdaq site but i can't find it...
[06:24] {Threei} http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/trader/news/upcomingevents/upcomingevents.stm
[06:25] {magoo} shit really, rimm will print 130 in first 10 minutes
[06:25] {Threei} The 2007 holiday schedule for NASDAQ is as follows:
[06:25] {Threei} December 25 Christmas Day
[06:26] {Threei} January 1 New Year's Day
[06:26] {dino} gm all, rimm finally gets moving
[06:26] {Threei} dino :)
[06:26] {esemde} dino....
[06:26] {esemde} closed just those days Vad....
[06:29] {esemde} FSLR up 4pts also
[06:29] {dino} gm ese
[06:29] {esemde} morning dino
[06:29] {esemde} your leading the trading room when vads gone?????
[06:29] {dino} itri
[06:32] {Threei} watching JASO/SOLF pair for possible following
[06:32] {Threei} SOLF looks to me like long if 26 getting hit
[06:33] {magoo} wait for first sign of strenghth RIMM..small 100 shares and ride its bounce
[06:33] {Threei} stop would be under .75 and possible slippage
[06:33] {Threei} so mind position size
[06:33] {dino} partial fill s itri 97.00
[06:34] {dino} very jumpy
[06:34] {magoo} one more pukllbk RIMM..then hit strengh100 shares only
[06:37] {Threei} .20 long SOLF
[06:37] {Threei} stop under 25
[06:37] {dino} cov 94.49 +2.51
[06:38] {magoo} long rimm now
[06:38] {magoo} i can't do it yet
[06:38] {dino} itri
[06:38] {dino} that is
[06:38] {magoo} but i would
[06:38] {magoo} 120
[06:38] {Threei} that was fast... anyone got SOLF?
[06:38] {BillyD} yes .21
[06:38] {Threei} gj
[06:39] {dino} tough crowd
[06:39] {esemde} not i
[06:39] {magoo} 100 shares RIMM stop can be 118.50
[06:39] {Threei} it's jealousy dino :)
[06:39] {dino} it's something...:)
[06:39] {dptl} ener?
[06:40] {esemde} i'm still waiting for ESLR to make 16.24
[06:40] {Threei} ENER .90 break yes
[06:40] {Threei} .74 stop
[06:42] {magoo} stop held
[06:42] {magoo} 118.50
[06:42] {BillyD} out 1/2 solf
[06:42] {Threei} come on ENER, scroll that 35
[06:42] {Threei} good boy
[06:44] {dptl} out+.20 ener ty
[06:44] {Threei} :)
[06:44] {Threei} half out ENER
[06:44] {esemde} nj dp...
[06:44] {Threei} stop to .89
[06:45] {Threei} 1/4 more out at .25
[06:45] {Threei} stop to .99
[06:45] {dino} gj dp
[06:46] {dptl} ty
[06:46] {Threei} half out SOLF .50
[06:46] {Threei} stop to .15
[06:48] {BillyD} out rest solf +.30 and .34 ty
[06:48] {Threei} welcome sai
[06:48] {dino} sm wide ldk l 46.00
[06:48] {BillyD} sheesh
[06:49] {Threei} offering 1/4 more SOLF at .80
[06:49] {BillyD} when am I gonna learn on these
[06:49] {Threei} and out in full 26.04
[06:49] {Threei} done with ENER for now
[06:50] {Threei} can I go home?
[06:50] {dptl} no....i missed solf lol
[06:50] {Threei} sigh
[06:51] {dino} stopped ldk -.70
[06:51] {Threei} argh SOLF
[06:51] {lumdus} if you would have said short ener you can go home for a week !
[06:51] {magoo} GO HOME
[06:52] {BillyD} Vad u like CSIQ if breaks
[06:52] {magoo} i just up NOW, no trades on
[06:52] {magoo} GET TO WORK
[06:52] {Threei} CSIQ 26.21, yes, but let's watch how this group acts
[06:52] {BillyD} ok
[06:53] {Threei} SOLF, there is an entry somewhere too
[06:53] {Threei} market pulls back
[06:54] {Threei} JASO
[06:54] {Threei} .30 break, risky one
[06:55] {Threei} aggrwessive entry is better idea probably
[06:56] {lumdus} jaso spread .34
[06:56] {Threei} in .03
[06:57] {Threei} stop under .75
[06:58] {dino} cedc
[06:59] {Threei} stop to under .80
[07:00] {Threei} *UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN DEC FINAL CONFIDENCE: 75.5 V 74.5E
[07:02] {Threei} come on JASO, 75 is waiting for you
[07:04] {Threei} let's see how you respond to violence
[07:04] * Threei kicks JASO in the rear with heavy duty steel-toed army boots
[07:05] {Threei} good response so far
[07:05] {Threei} half out.50
[07:05] {Threei} stop to .99
[07:07] {Threei} out in full 75
[07:08] {BillyD} nice Vad...no emtry here
[07:08] {Threei} +.97
[07:08] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[07:08] {Threei} can I go home??
[07:08] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[07:09] {BillyD} you are home
[07:09] {dptl} that was nice one was trying to get it but didnt
[07:09] {Threei} dino... I second your opinion... tough crowd
[07:09] {Threei} what are you talking about... it gave 74 offer AFTER I posted 74.03 entry
[07:10] {Threei} the onbly way you wouldn't get it is if you weren't trying :)
[07:10] {dptl} :)
[07:10] {BillyD} I have to change the way I think about these volatile ones
[07:10] {Threei} yeah - to not thinking
[07:10] {dino} holx drop
[07:11] {Threei} where did this notion come from that trading requires thinking at all...
[07:11] {liranm} Vad, it was very risky and the market is doing nothing
[07:11] {BillyD} u r right
[07:11] {Threei} so you regulate it with share size
[07:11] {Threei} but liranm... look at it this way
[07:12] {BillyD} volatility equal opportunity with proper risk management
[07:12] {Threei} as everything in life, things are balanced out
[07:12] {Threei} if you want no risk, you have no perofit opportunities
[07:12] {Threei} small risk usually equals small profit
[07:12] {magoo} vad u think it got 76?
[07:12] {liranm} but don't you prefer to trade when the market has direction?
[07:12] {Threei} they are parts of the same equation
[07:13] {Threei} in this case, it goes like this:
[07:13] {Threei} stock is very volatile,
[07:13] {Threei} meaning risk is bigger than average,
[07:13] {Threei} and it offers bigger profit opportunity,
[07:13] {Threei} so the best way to exploit itis:
[07:13] {Threei} minimze risk byt trying to get agressive entry
[07:14] {Threei} if it doesn't work, you get as small stop as possible,
[07:14] {Threei} in this rade it was about 30 cents
[07:14] {Threei} and with this stock, 30 cents is a very tight stop
[07:14] {Threei} and if it moves in your favor, potential is amazing
[07:14] {Threei} you saw 1:3 easily
[07:14] {Threei} and it still moves
[07:14] {magoo} [10:12] {magoo} vad u think it got 76?
[07:15] {Threei} I need pullback mags...
[07:15] {Threei} maybe
[07:15] {Threei} see, the mistake you make is
[07:15] {Threei} you are trying to have no losses
[07:15] {Threei} this is not the way to approach it
[07:16] {Threei} think of equation,
[07:16] {Threei} and try to regulate different parts of it
[07:16] {Threei} by chosing the type of entry and share size
[07:16] {Threei} you can minimize risk in difdferent ways,
[07:16] {Threei} either by trading withhigher probablities
[07:16] {Threei} which would be regular entry
[07:17] {Threei} or by trading with smaller stops
[07:17] {Threei} which would be aggressive entry
[07:17] {liranm} OK, thanks
[07:17] {magoo} entry on CSIQ?
[07:18] {Threei} CSIQ just won't form anything compelling so far
[07:18] {magoo} SOLF?
[07:18] {Threei} watching it, not getting vibe yet... CSIQ I mean
[07:19] {Threei} SAOLF shapes up better
[07:19] {Threei} .40 break is still of interest
[07:19] {Threei} just want it to show clean support
[07:19] {Threei} so far it's .15 but not firmly established yet
[07:20] {esemde} ERIC ...up against the highs classic pattern from VADS book
[07:20] {magoo} opk, i gonna work u hard today.,..then u take vacation
[07:20] {magoo} deal??
[07:20] {Threei} work?
[07:20] {Threei} work??
[07:20] {BillyD} no no
[07:20] {BillyD} he does exceptional when flowing
[07:21] {esemde} page 125 to be exact...
[07:21] {BillyD} don't let those words scare you
[07:21] {Threei} thinking of .35 ort so as long trigger ese?
[07:21] {esemde} yes
[07:21] {Threei} if holding above .25
[07:22] {esemde} sorry page 128..in the book
[07:22] {Threei} why is ERIC so narrow and thick? it uswed to be much more volatile
[07:23] {esemde} gonna go with the bstop at .34
[07:23] {Threei} allow me one more comment on this theme guys
[07:23] {esemde} fire away
[07:24] {Threei} do not look at trading as some technical thing that you need to master in terms of techical parameters
[07:24] {Threei} it's very narrow vision and won't get you very far
[07:24] {Threei} look at it as part of life, obeying same laws that rule the life in general
[07:24] {Threei} risk/reward balance,
[07:25] {Threei} isn't it way broader thing than just trading?
[07:25] {dino} sigm l .75
[07:25] {Threei} I mean, you won't be crossing the street on red light in order to shave 5 seconds of your walking route?
[07:25] {Threei} why not?
[07:25] {BillyD} like, is it worth paying to see if this trade works
[07:25] {Threei} because risking your life to save 5 seconds is ridiculous risk/reward
[07:26] {Threei} but, can you imagine a situation
[07:26] {Threei} where it would be worth the risk?
[07:26] {Threei} probably yes if what is on the other side is vitally important
[07:26] {liranm} like if there is a beutiful women in the other side
[07:26] {BillyD} bad risk
[07:26] {BillyD} lol
[07:26] {Threei} well, if that is very high in priorities :)
[07:27] {Threei} I said it somewhere in some article,
[07:27] {Threei} best trading books have nothing to do with trading
[07:27] {cosmo} i try to... "be the ball"
[07:27] {Threei} but they are very good in describing certain patterns in life, in human behaviour
[07:27] {esemde} can attest to that!~!!!
[07:28] {Threei} get 7 Habits of highly effective people
[07:28] {Threei} get Power of Now
[07:28] {Threei} you will find more value for your trading in those than you will in usual "indsicators and studies"
[07:28] {Threei} when you start understanding trading as part of life,
[07:29] {Threei} your trading habits as reflection of who you are
[07:29] {Threei} and achieve changes in your trading by changing yourself
[07:29] {Threei} that's when you get it.
[07:29] {Threei} and trust me,
[07:29] {Threei} as esoterci as it may sound
[07:30] {Threei} this is the truth majority of traders never wrap their mind around
[07:30] {Threei} and continue focusing on secondary things
[07:30] {Threei} routing... technicals... all this stuff
[07:30] {Threei} they asre needed of course
[07:30] {Threei} but they alone won't get you very far
[07:30] {Threei} they are just tools
[07:31] {Threei} if you have no idea what to do with tools
[07:31] {Threei} no matter how well you mastered tools themselves you won't be able to build anything
[07:31] {Threei} Done blabbing
[07:31] {cosmo} .... trust your car parts
[07:32] {dino} less is more
[07:32] {Threei} very true
[07:32] {dino} put the music on an trade
[07:32] {Threei} in fact, I found out that my process of learning trading is not gaining more knowledge
[07:32] {esemde} NO!!!!! don't read about 180 trading books like I did!!!!
[07:32] {Threei} it's rather cutting off unneeded knowledge
[07:32] {dino} ]i agree
[07:33] {Threei} the more fat I trimmed, the leaner and meaner my trading become
[07:33] {Threei} can't twell you how many things I abandoned in a process of learnbing :)
[07:33] {cosmo} like what the symbol stands for...
[07:34] {Threei} pretty much, lol
[07:34] {cosmo} :)
[07:34] {dino} crack you up, i ditched everything but downgrades. come in fresh everyday, no idea what stock i will trade
[07:36] {BillyD} so basically vad, it's just about managing risk
[07:36] {BillyD} forget the rest
[07:36] {Threei} well, this is big part of it
[07:36] {Threei} but there is more
[07:36] {Threei} feeling the flow
[07:36] {magoo} JASO read?
[07:36] {Threei} feeling the momo
[07:36] {Threei} understanding human reactions
[07:36] {BillyD} yes, assuming the readability
[07:36] {Threei} not yet mags
[07:37] {Threei} [10:36] {Threei} understanding human reactions
[07:37] {Threei} to put higher odds to your trading
[07:37] {Threei} because it's human reactions that giovern stock movement
[07:37] {Threei} tell you what... get TTR of your shelf,
[07:37] {Threei} re-read it
[07:37] {Threei} paying most attention to non-technical part
[07:38] {Threei} but rather to the part that talks about general things
[07:38] {Threei} trading philosophy
[07:38] {Threei} psychology
[07:38] {Threei} if first time around tyou mostly paid atention to technical part, setups, tape reading pri9nciples etc
[07:38] {Threei} you will be amazed to dicover whole new dimension to the book
[07:39] {Threei} mags
[07:39] {Threei} JASO
[07:39] {Threei} .50 break now if holding above .30
[07:39] {magoo} ok
[07:40] {dptl} thats what i have i think.... to much unneeded info in my head
[07:40] {magoo} in
[07:41] {BillyD} same here
[07:42] {BillyD} sheesh
[07:42] {BillyD} oh well
[07:43] {magoo} out
[07:43] {Threei} needs some rest
[07:44] {BillyD} mkt was providing help up as well
[07:44] {Threei} yep, that's what I don't like here, it lost synch
[07:45] {magoo} ive found..second try always worse odds
[07:45] {BillyD} u mean from initial run
[07:46] {magoo} yeah
[07:46] {magoo} its vads sprint vs marathon analogy
[07:49] {dino} trak
[07:50] {cosmo} tibx
[07:51] {dino} trak s .60
[07:53] {Threei} ADCT TICKING HIGHER ON POSITIVE NAJARIAN COMMENTS ON CNBC
[07:54] {BillyD} Monkey acting up
[07:54] {BillyD} see if holds here and takes large .30 offer
[07:55] {BillyD} JASO seems like consolidating
[07:55] {magoo} yeah..p[rolly surprise jump threu 75
[07:55] {magoo} tough tho'
[07:56] {BillyD} yes, do you wnat to get smacked again lol
[07:56] {dino} cedc s .50
[08:00] {esemde} ERIC bstop .34 invalidated....
[08:00] {magoo} seee god dammit
[08:01] {magoo} would you hit it here vad?
[08:02] {hawkfan4} FSLR taking off
[08:02] {Threei} hard to tell
[08:06] {Threei} looks to me like run in the cards
[08:06] {Threei} just can't nail a structure for exact trade
[08:07] {cosmo} solf?
[08:07] {magoo} no jaso'
[08:07] {cosmo} .40 still?
[08:07] {dino} hoku
[08:07] {BillyD} sheesh missed hoku
[08:08] {Threei} pullback into .30 HOKU
[08:08] {BillyD} yes order at .32
[08:08] {Threei} or consolidation and break of .50
[08:08] {dino} trak stopped .83 -.23
[08:09] {BillyD} one buy took most of big offer
[08:10] {Threei} cosmo... SOLF, if not losing .20 anymore
[08:10] {cosmo} :)
[08:10] {cosmo} ...so far
[08:11] {BillyD} Vad, u taking solf if breaks
[08:11] {Threei} yes
[08:12] {magoo} breaks what?
[08:12] {Threei} .40
[08:12] {magoo} ty
[08:12] {cosmo} ... with conviction too
[08:12] {lumdus} it broke, i took it now. my heart
[08:12] {lumdus} in solf .43 stop ?
[08:13] {Threei} under .20
[08:15] {Threei} breathe lum, breathe
[08:15] {lumdus} not watching .. :)
[08:15] {Threei} if you did you would see that you had 1:1 already :)
[08:16] {lumdus} oh, cool...
[08:16] {BillyD} out 1/2
[08:17] {Threei} HOKU getting ready it seems
[08:17] {BillyD} Vad, stop to .39 now on SOLF
[08:17] {esemde} have a great weekend and christmas...Best of the season to you all.....Vad have a great holiday...i'm off to do my last show of this christmas season take care everyone!!
[08:17] {Threei} take care ese, have a great holiday
[08:17] {Threei} see you in Jan :)
[08:17] {BillyD} bye ese
[08:17] {esemde} indeed
[08:17] {magoo} happy hol ES
[08:18] {dptl} Marry Christmas ..Ese
[08:18] {cosmo} happy solstice:)
[08:19] {dino} cya ese
[08:19] {dptl} hoku off .50?
[08:20] {Threei} yes
[08:20] {magoo} could u be more specific?
[08:20] {dptl} stop .39?
[08:20] {lumdus} in hoku .48 3 x lot
[08:20] {Threei} .39 is probably too tight
[08:21] {dptl} where then?
[08:21] {lumdus} .33 better ?
[08:21] {Threei} .33 yes
[08:21] {BillyD} VAD. under .20 still on SOLF or .38
[08:21] {Threei} breaks .55, then trail to .39
[08:21] {Threei} .29 SOLF
[08:22] {BillyD} ty
[08:22] {lumdus} 3i, hoku stop .33 ?
[08:22] {Threei} [11:21] {Threei} .33 yes
[08:22] {lumdus} tx boss
[08:23] {dptl} jaso?
[08:23] {BillyD} stopped solf -.14
[08:23] {dino} cedc bstop to .26
[08:23] {Threei} break woreth a try dp
[08:23] {dino} stopped +.22
[08:25] {Threei} come on monkey
[08:25] {dptl} in jaso .03
[08:25] {dptl} .75stop
[08:27] {dptl} stopped
[08:32] {Threei} looks like violence is the only way to make them move
[08:32] * Threei kicks HOKU in its red rear
[08:33] {magoo} magoo dangles fresh bananas from above
[08:34] {dino} iclr s .85, stop .16
[08:36] {dino} celg
[08:43] {dino} iclr tighten bstop to .03
[08:43] {dino} strange
[08:45] {dino} stopped iclr -.15, rinsed
[08:53] {dino} celg ;l .90
[08:54] {magoo} oh shit vad.................
[08:54] * magoo slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:58] {Threei} really
[08:58] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:59] {dino} out celg .60, +.70
[09:00] {Threei} nice one
[09:00] {dino} ty
[09:04] {BillyD} took some HOKU off table -.05-.06
[09:07] {Threei} ok monkey, it's really time
[09:08] {magoo} are u in or want trigg
[09:08] {magoo} in .48
[09:08] {Threei} in from last millenium
[09:08] {BillyD} rofl
[09:08] {magoo} oh, i just went off your comment
[09:09] {BillyD} not fair magoo....we sitting it thru the wait
[09:09] {Threei} yeah
[09:09] {Threei} and he comes, grabs it on the fly and in the money already
[09:09] {magoo} i know..and u know magoo..very patent
[09:09] {BillyD} sheesh
[09:09] {Threei} disgusting isn't it
[09:09] {dino} sour apples
[09:09] {BillyD} jealousy, envy, makes me want to slap him
[09:10] {magoo} i would enjoty it
[09:10] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:10] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:10] {BillyD} count your money :)
[09:10] {magoo} who gonna slap me while vads away?
[09:10] {Threei} oh, i can do some in advance
[09:11] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] {dino} ofix drop
[09:11] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:11] {Threei} that will sustain you for a while
[09:11] {magoo} magoo pix himself off floor
[09:12] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:12] {BillyD} that should do it
[09:13] {magoo} magoo crawls back to chair...struggles to grab desk..falls down on a 10 count
[09:13] {dptl} GET UP
[09:13] {BillyD} dp wants to slap u now
[09:14] {dptl} lol
[09:14] {Threei} let me know when you atre back in your chair magoo
[09:14] {BillyD} lol
[09:14] {magoo} just got up and in
[09:15] {magoo} a lil dazed
[09:15] {magoo} in daze, just bght additional 12k sh hoku
[09:16] {magoo} prolly have a daytrade call of no less than 3.2343 million
[09:16] {Threei} in your chair?
[09:16] {Threei} firmly?
[09:16] {magoo} yueah
[09:16] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:16] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:16] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:17] {dptl} lol
[09:17] {BillyD} CSIQ action
[09:17] {BillyD} a bit extended here
[09:17] {magoo} magoo hangs on with feet in air, chair repeadily spinning around and around
[09:18] {magoo} csiq..damm
[09:18] {Threei} again this no news run
[09:19] {BillyD} comes out of nowhere
[09:19] {magoo} almost seems like solf & csiq alternate
[09:19] {BillyD} "they" are moving them back and forth
[09:20] {magoo} no i mean..1 day solf power..next day csiq
[09:20] {BillyD} as Roman says: the boyz
[09:20] {dino} l cvco .17, stop .99
[09:21] {Threei} CSIQ next round it seems
[09:21] {magoo} take now?
[09:22] {Threei} pure momo
[09:22] {Threei} if you feel it, take it
[09:22] {Threei} if not... not
[09:23] {magoo} cant feel anythiong after barrage i received
[09:23] {Threei} lol
[09:23] {Threei} HOKU stop to .39 now
[09:24] {dptl} i am out.62
[09:24] {Threei} :)
[09:24] {BillyD} nice dp...no longer hostage
[09:25] {dptl} well i scrude up on first trade ...got out .37 then got back in .47
[09:25] {dino} prkr
[09:25] {Threei} that's pure emotional trading dp...
[09:26] {dptl} ye still trying to ajust
[09:26] {Threei} ok CSIQ, you have 27 to bust... hurry
[09:27] {dino} back in 10
[09:27] {Threei} good boy
[09:27] {dptl} where did you got in csiq
[09:27] {Threei} girl?
[09:28] {Threei} .65... no call
[09:28] {Threei} pure momo feel
[09:28] {magoo} u out?
[09:28] {dptl} i need to get thet feel some how
[09:28] {magoo} i took .77
[09:28] {Threei} out 3/4 27.01
[09:29] {Threei} stop under .70 for the last portion
[09:29] {magoo} waiting .17
[09:29] {magoo} will adjust
[09:29] {magoo} oh well
[09:29] {magoo} OUT
[09:29] {dptl} nice
[09:29] {magoo} TY VADSTERMIESTERBRA
[09:29] {dptl} o boy
[09:30] {Threei} not bad trading for dazzled magoo
[09:30] {Threei} trout does ya fine
[09:30] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:30] {magoo} magoo notices blood drippingf on deask..tooth feels loose
[09:30] * BillyD slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:31] {BillyD} tooth no longer loose
[09:31] {magoo} CHRIST ALMIGHTY
[09:31] {Threei} his ears are still sticking out
[09:31] * dptl slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:31] {BillyD} maggo now looking for tooth on floor
[09:31] * LaserDave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[09:31] {Threei} rofl
[09:31] {dptl} lol
[09:32] {magoo} magoo straggers...falls out chair..dino kicks him on way out
[09:32] {Threei} [12:10] {magoo} who gonna slap me while vads away? {---- be careful for what you wish for
[09:32] {LaserDave1} we all know how much you like da trouts mags
[09:32] {magoo} dcc dave when gwet chance
[09:32] {LaserDave1} sure
[09:33] {Threei} {LaserDave1} sure but please... shower first
[09:34] {LaserDave1} :)
[09:34] {BillyD} SOLF now
[09:38] {Threei} as predicted before market... solar day again
[09:39] {hawkfan4} a beautiful solar flare
[09:39] {Threei} lol
[09:40] {magoo} jaso next vad??
[09:40] {LaserDave1} solf nice
[09:40] {Threei} JASO is tough here mags
[09:40] {Threei} can't tell
[09:40] {magoo} i can..its next
[09:41] {Threei} feels like it has more in it but I cannot nail any kind of setup worth trying here
[09:42] {Threei} we got several beautiful plays... let's wait for easier money to show up again, most of them feels like struggle right now
[09:42] {Threei} and we still got monkey thinking what to do
[09:43] {Threei} if you feel very risk adverse here, trail stop to .45 on HOKY the monkey
[09:43] {Threei} HOKU sorry
[09:43] {magoo} hoky is his brother
[09:43] {Threei} lol
[09:44] {Threei} and if it gets us stopped, don't forget to slap dp who got his scalp and laughs at us now
[09:44] {dptl} :)
[09:44] {Threei} see?
[09:45] {Threei} one consolation is, if HOKU goes higher we will not let him forget that he took a scalp
[09:45] {LaserDave1} guy showing 10 inet big buyer SOLF
[09:45] {Threei} or if you feel particularly nice today, I will not let him forget
[09:45] {Threei} where dave?
[09:46] {Threei} I don't see him
[09:46] {LaserDave1} he was at 00s
[09:46] {LaserDave1} big time
[09:46] {LaserDave1} then moved up to .22
[09:46] {LaserDave1} they got him
[09:46] {Threei} real then
[09:46] {LaserDave1} not sure if hes gonna still be at 00s
[09:46] {Threei} nice
[09:46] {LaserDave1} you have a target here Vad
[09:46] {LaserDave1} im in at 00s
[09:47] {Threei} well, I still think SOLF is destined for 30-35... it's just not a daytrade
[09:47] {LaserDave1} gotcha
[09:47] {LaserDave1} if hes not at 00s i will get ouot
[09:47] {Threei} and with its volatility not going to be an easy ride
[09:47] {LaserDave1} out of 200
[09:48] {LaserDave1} trying to hold rest
[09:48] {LaserDave1} .90 stop now
[09:48] {Threei} on intraday basis, SOLF is either deep pullback buy for a bigger move as we did yesterday,
[09:48] {Threei} or momo breakout for scalp
[09:48] {Threei} but only if you get this feel
[09:48] {Threei} you know... white foam at SOLF's mouth
[09:48] {LaserDave1} hiding at .27 if they do a bar up
[09:49] {LaserDave1} haha nice
[09:49] {Threei} normal technical breakouts are to be avoided on these stocks
[09:49] {Threei} they fail 9 out of 10
[09:49] {magoo} need to see lev 2 scrolling fast and green
[09:50] {Threei} yeah, feeding frenzy
[09:50] {magoo} no worry about exacrt entry just get in and lay out ahead
[09:50] {LaserDave1} i think hes back at .05 now
[09:51] {magoo} which stock?
[09:51] {LaserDave1} at .24 now
[09:51] {Threei} like dave knows
[09:51] {Threei} he trades without looking at symbol
[09:51] {LaserDave1} cancelled
[09:51] {LaserDave1} hes at .20 now
[09:51] {Threei} but he is talking SOLF :)
[09:51] {LaserDave1} gonna try to hold unless they smash him
[09:51] {magoo} oh..thats magoo
[09:53] {Threei} robr... hi, welcome to the room, and give me a minute of your attention please
[09:53] {Threei} your trial started just when I am about to leave for Christmas/New Year vacation
[09:53] {Threei} so feel free to hang out with these bandits while I am way,
[09:53] {Threei} don't listen to anything they say about me when I am not here,
[09:53] {dptl} lol
[09:53] {LaserDave1} selling .35 if i can
[09:54] {Threei} and aftrer I am back, your trial will be prolonged for another week
[09:54] {LaserDave1} .28 now
[09:54] {LaserDave1} 300 left
[09:54] {Threei} if I forget, feel free to remind me at vad@realitytrader.com
[09:54] {LaserDave1} cmon
[09:54] {LaserDave1} 1 left
[09:54] {Threei} 1?
[09:54] {Threei} lol
[09:55] {LaserDave1} .26 anyone
[09:55] {LaserDave1} chasing my tail
[09:55] {LaserDave1} .22
[09:56] {LaserDave1} ok oout
[09:56] {LaserDave1} lol
[09:56] {magoo} too funny
[09:56] {LaserDave1} thanks guys
[09:56] {LaserDave1} ya i was everywhere
[09:56] {LaserDave1} would of held if they didnt smash that inet reserve guy
[09:56] {LaserDave1} still nice trade
[09:56] {LaserDave1} thanks guysssssss
[09:58] {magoo} monkey got us
[10:00] {BillyD} u might as well put a stake in my heart with this monkey death trade
[10:02] {magoo} no kidding..i hate that stock
[10:03] {dino} mtrx s .50
[10:03] {BillyD} I try and exercise some discipline while voice telling me ......sell and move on
[10:04] {Threei} magoo... one thing should make you feel better... hint: dp got a scalp on it
[10:04] {dptl} o man ...going for smoke
[10:04] {Threei} lol
[10:04] * BillyD slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[10:04] * magoo slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[10:04] {Threei} see how skillfully I set you up
[10:05] {Threei} you are slapped and my hands are fish smlee-free
[10:06] {dino} sqnm s .95 stop hod
[10:06] {magoo} out hoku .42 I CAN NOT TASKE IT
[10:06] {Threei} yeah, lost inspiration
[10:07] {Threei} dp had right idea on it
[10:12] {Threei} CSIQ may be preparing for another leg
[10:12] {Threei} .50 break, stop under .25, very risky
[10:16] {dino} mtrx stopped -.31
[10:17] {dino} giii
[10:17] {BillyD} Vad, what do you do if you find yourself in a "pushing it" mode which clouds jdgmnt
[10:18] {BillyD} back away?
[10:18] {magoo} he drinks
[10:18] {Threei} if you are able to recognize that you are in this mode, you are out of it already
[10:18] {BillyD} roflol
[10:18] {cosmo} nap time i say
[10:19] {Threei} and kidding I am not
[10:20] {BillyD} I believe you
[10:20] {Threei} it may sound overly cujte, and cute sayings are rarely true
[10:20] {Threei} but this one is
[10:21] {Threei} when you are in this or that form of deviation from perception of reality as reality is,
[10:21] {magoo} huh?
[10:21] {Threei} you are not able to recognize the deviation, things feel normal to you
[10:21] {dino} giii s .80
[10:21] {Threei} nevermind magoo
[10:22] {Threei} that excessive trouting still keeps you underwater
[10:22] {LaserDave1} u like RIMM Vad
[10:22] {LaserDave1} ?
[10:22] {BillyD} to snap out of it is by coming to realization your are deviated right
[10:22] {LaserDave1} if it can get 120 it might be real big
[10:22] {LaserDave1} but massive wall there
[10:23] {Threei} looks like dave... risk is a bit out of my comfort zone
[10:23] {LaserDave1} gotcha ok
[10:23] {LaserDave1} ya it was going nuts earlier
[10:24] {LaserDave1} now its so tame
[10:24] {LaserDave1} but this think can become an animal again at anytime
[10:24] {magoo} dave i was flipping it aftrhr
[10:24] {cosmo} thinking?
[10:24] {magoo} 120 was max last nite
[10:24] {magoo} ate up huge offer at 120., but not even 120.01
[10:25] {LaserDave1} pre market it was near 125
[10:25] {LaserDave1} this morn
[10:25] {magoo} i talking last nite tho
[10:25] {LaserDave1} im long at .79 so i got some wiggle room here
[10:25] {LaserDave1} gotcha
[10:26] {magoo} minute chart looks like beggin to bar up
[10:26] {LaserDave1} all i want is 2 points i mean is that so much to ask for
[10:26] {LaserDave1} :)
[10:27] {magoo} usually 120 should be magnate
[10:29] {lumdus} so break of 120 on rimm should be a go. . correct ?
[10:29] {lumdus} in rimm 119.79 stop .64
[10:30] {magoo} magnate=pulls stock privce up to that level
[10:30] {LaserDave1} we need a little love from the markets
[10:30] {lumdus} i'll take love anyway i get it.
[10:30] {Threei} {markets} do I know you?
[10:31] {Threei} {markets} how about dinner and movie first?
[10:31] {lumdus} he hee
[10:31] {LaserDave1} haha
[10:31] {BillyD} lum is a triple lot guy
[10:31] {lumdus} i'll put my stop at b/e .. yes, triple lot in this
[10:32] {lumdus} if it doesn't break now, i lost my chance with this
[10:32] {lumdus} 3i, told me never turn a profit into a loss. so that's it
[10:33] {Threei} I did?
[10:34] {Threei} you know that before taking my advice you are required ask how many drinks I had during last 2 hours, right?
[10:34] {lumdus} don't get your drift here..
[10:34] {magoo} vad, u need to go out in blaze of glory
[10:35] {Threei} there is no drift... I am merrily blabbing away on pre-vacation day
[10:35] {magoo} we need aniother pick like yesterday point and half in LDK
[10:35] {Threei} mags... "there will be water if God wills it"... :)
[10:36] {Threei} trust me, if I see a play I won't be hiding it from you
[10:36] {lumdus} go rimm go .. common,
[10:36] {Threei} but you don't want to me to run around and push for a play
[10:36] {lumdus} stopped -.01
[10:36] {Threei} that's recipe for unneeded stops
[10:37] {LaserDave1} stopped
[10:37] {dino} syna beat up
[10:40] {lumdus} 3i, so like on days as today untill jan 3 , does it really make sense to trade knowing thta we will be pushing it ?
[10:40] {Threei} hmm?
[10:40] {Threei} not sure I understand... why trading in this period would be pushing it?
[10:41] {lumdus} since it's slow and not many setups - so i tend to push a little
[10:41] {Threei} didn't we get quite a few?
[10:41] {Threei} every day
[10:42] {Threei} you sound like any trade these days would be "pushing it"
[10:42] {Threei} it's not so
[10:42] {lumdus} I am talking christmas to New years not in the past
[10:42] {dptl} csiq?
[10:42] {Threei} why do you assume they will be so drastically different from let's say this week?
[10:43] {Threei} they may offer less good setups
[10:43] {Threei} or more
[10:43] {Threei} or the same
[10:43] {magoo} I DON'T
[10:43] {Threei} who has crystal ball, feel free to let me know
[10:43] {Threei} not sure dp
[10:45] {Threei} could be start of another round or could be half-hearted attempt... not much indication here, not real pace
[10:45] {dptl} ok ty
[10:50] {dino} anything can happen
[10:52] {dptl} rimm is trying again
[10:53] {LaserDave1} rimm is driving me a bit loopy
[10:54] {Threei} FCEL
[10:54] {Threei} 13 break if holding above ,90
[10:56] {dino} syna l .25
[10:56] {dptl} in.01
[10:56] {LaserDave1} target fcel Vad
[10:56] {Threei} 1:1 most likely
[10:58] {dino} giii stopped
[11:01] {dptl} offering .12
[11:04] {magoo} thingds getting jiggy here vad
[11:04] {Threei} good joggy or bad jiggy? :)
[11:05] {magoo} good
[11:05] {dino} cov sqnm .70, +.25
[11:05] {Threei} come on FCEL, you broke very important resistance... more life please
[11:06] {LaserDave1} .06 is holding it
[11:06] {LaserDave1} we need it to break .10
[11:06] {dptl} ubss at.10
[11:06] {magoo} another HOKU
[11:06] {Threei} so dave, where are you with your 50K buy??
[11:06] {Threei} hit it
[11:06] {LaserDave1} sorry got 1000 at teh 00s
[11:06] {dino} mkt going up
[11:07] {magoo} JASO looks like starting
[11:08] {dino} pmti
[11:09] * Chaeron slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:13] {BillyD} VAd, SOLF at .75?
[11:14] {BillyD} seems b/os not best on it
[11:14] {Threei} can't tell here
[11:14] {BillyD} no foam
[11:16] {dino} pmti l .20 risky
[11:16] {dptl} .90 stop right?
[11:16] {dino} labl strange
[11:16] {dino} y
[11:18] {dino} stopped sorry dp
[11:19] {dptl} o..no i mean fcel
[11:19] {dino} ok
[11:19] {Threei} .89
[11:22] {dptl} big offer here
[11:22] {dino} labl s .90
[11:26] {Threei} fiiiinally
[11:26] {Threei} half out FCEL
[11:27] {dptl} dp is out ...ty
[11:27] {Threei} if you are not masichist and do not enjoy chinese watr torture, take full profit, like dp did :)
[11:30] {Threei} stop to .97 second half
[11:31] {dino} cedc
[11:33] {magoo} we really let alot get away on SOLF
[11:33] {magoo} 14:13] {BillyD} VAd, SOLF at .75?
[11:34] {Threei} well mags... remember I said a day or two ago
[11:34] {magoo} stop tright there
[11:34] {Threei} SOLF is looking at 28-29 nearest time, 30-35 later
[11:34] {magoo} i do or CAN NOT hold overnite in my situation
[11:35] {Threei} there
[11:35] {Threei} this is the problem,
[11:35] {Threei} when these stocks move
[11:35] {Threei} they do not always allow for a clean read
[11:35] {Threei} so out of whole move we take those parts that we can read
[11:35] {Threei} the only other way to inhale qwhole thing is to hold for a swing
[11:36] {Threei} which we are not rweady/willing/able to do
[11:39] {magoo} agree
[11:44] {Threei} I came up with 2008 resolution
[11:44] {Threei} here it is:
[11:44] {dino} oh no
[11:44] {magoo} hope mty name not in it
[11:45] {Threei} find and destroy unfulfilled resolutions of 2007, 2006, 2005... etc all the way down to 1990
[11:52] {magoo} JASO
[11:58] {dino} syna stop to .48
[11:58] {LaserDave1} been watching SOLF again
[11:59] {LaserDave1} someone jsut keeps buying and buying at this level
[11:59] {LaserDave1} im long stop .90
[12:00] {dino} shorts?
[12:00] {dino} \cvco stop to .38
[12:01] {dino} labl will not move
[12:01] {BillyD} kick it
[12:01] {dino} cvco stopped w/slip ave .28, +.11, hose job
[12:02] {magoo} entry on solf dave?
[12:03] {Threei} mags, you realize you are asking advice from a guy who type SOLF right off 5th attempt?
[12:03] {hawkfan4} vad, have a great vacation. Unreal day, +6k, all solars. Been learning alot from you guys and one of these days will be sharing more as well, Happy Holidays all Rt'ers
[12:03] {Threei} at least it takes me just three
[12:03] {dino} out syna ave. 53, +.28
[12:03] {Threei} hawk... this is best reward I got this year for the room efforts
[12:03] {magoo} WOW hawk, nice
[12:04] {Threei} thank you for sharing :)
[12:04] {dino} great job hawk. happy holidays
[12:04] {Threei} Merry Christmas
[12:04] {BillyD} very nice hawk:)
[12:04] {Threei} or happy hanukkah
[12:04] {LaserDave1} nice trading Hawk
[12:04] {LaserDave1} congrats
[12:04] {Threei} or whetever else there is that I wouldn't be able to type
[12:04] {patience} nice hawkfan, have a good Christmas
[12:04] {dptl} happy holidays hawk.
[12:06] {Threei} if FCEL goes to 1:2, do I get cookie?
[12:07] {magoo} i hated that trade
[12:07] {dino} die labl, dieeeeeee
[12:08] {magoo} sorry boss...but after hawk making your day..i hate to say it
[12:08] {BillyD} no cookie from magoo
[12:08] {magoo} {NO SOUP FOR YOU}
[12:09] {cosmo} is there a mkt on monday?
[12:09] {cosmo} half day?
[12:09] {dptl} half a day i think
[12:09] {cosmo} thx ... i can't
[12:10] {magoo} DAVE dcc
[12:11] {Threei} that's fine magoo, I slapped you enough today so I can take it :)
[12:11] {magoo} yes u did
[12:14] {Threei} the way I look at it:
[12:14] {dino} let go labl
[12:14] {Threei} I am a chiwef in a restaurant
[12:14] {dino} nice spread
[12:14] {Threei} I cook for different tastes
[12:15] {Threei} you don't like certain dish, you don't hate a chief, you simpkly don't order the dish :)
[12:15] {magoo} no.i hate the chef
[12:15] {Threei} that's your right of course
[12:15] {Threei} just as chief's right to unholster the trout...
[12:15] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[12:15] {BillyD} lol
[12:16] {Threei} chief - chef of course....
[12:25] {dino} cybs
[12:27] {dino} labl bstop to .65
[12:29] {BillyD} is SOLF a crapshoot for b/o
[12:31] {LaserDave1} that solf stopped me oout again
[12:31] {LaserDave1} dang
[12:31] {LaserDave1} not its ripping
[12:31] {BillyD} yeah, reason I didn't take it here
[12:31] {BillyD} would like PB
[12:33] {BillyD} almost impossible to trade with any reasonable setup
[12:35] {magoo} monster offer 99
[12:36] {magoo} meant 29
[12:36] {Threei} lol
[12:37] {Threei} SOLF cares not
[12:37] {dptl} ye like nothing there
[12:37] {BillyD} until you buy it
[12:37] {dptl} lol
[12:37] {BillyD} :)
[12:38] {lumdus} in solf 29.22
[12:38] {magoo} oh shit
[12:38] {Threei} CSIQ time
[12:38] {BillyD} it seems the b/os I have taken on it go up a littlle and fall back
[12:38] {lumdus} stop at .19
[12:38] {lumdus} 2 pts away
[12:39] {lumdus} common run solf run
[12:40] {lumdus} stop .29
[12:40] {lumdus} out +.05 i made money on solf !!!
[12:40] {Threei} that's horrific chasing lum
[12:41] {magoo} what about CSIQ vad?a
[12:41] {Threei} NQ drops sharply mags
[12:41] {dino} labl to bstop .55
[12:41] {lumdus} yeah, i know
[12:41] {Threei} 20min till eod
[12:41] {Threei} I woluld refrain
[12:42] {dino} 3i, so i don't forget, you have a great holiday / vacation
[12:43] {Threei} thank you :)
[12:43] {BillyD} Vad, u right on CSIQ
[12:44] {BillyD} enough to ruin someones eod
[12:44] {Threei} it gave quick spike, tried to follow SOLF
[12:44] {Threei} but then gravity took over
[12:44] {magoo} yes vad..have great vaca & holiday
[12:44] {Threei} thank you... first one in a year and half
[12:47] {lumdus} solf going
[12:49] {lumdus} Vad, have nice vacation. We are going to miss you here, but i doubt be trading too much until you get back
[12:49] {Threei} thanks
[12:49] {dptl} looks like we'll take vacation too
[12:49] {dino} labl bstop to .50, lock in daily
[12:49] {Threei} just trade if there is a good setup
[12:50] {Threei} and don't if there is none
[12:50] {Threei} simple as that
[12:50] {lumdus} Not really, you need big brother watching all the time. Simple as that
[12:50] {cosmo} i go to the desert
[12:50] {dino} cov ave .52, +.38
[12:51] {dino} calling it a day, aside from monday good week
