December 20, 2007
Session Start: Thu Dec 20 00:00:00 2007
Session Time: Thu Dec 20 00:00:00 2007
[05:44] {Threei} Good morning
[05:46] {cosmo} {ORCL} agree...
[05:46] {cosmo} fwiw
[05:46] {Threei} really
[05:47] {Threei} {NVAX} yeah me too
[05:47] {BillyD} morning
[05:47] {Threei} billy :)
[05:50] {lumdus} morning all
[05:50] {Threei} lum :)
[05:53] {Threei} SOLF has this detrmined look again
[05:53] {dptl} good morning all
[05:53] {Threei} dp :)
[05:56] {dino} gm all
[05:56] {Threei} dino :)
[05:56] {dino} :)
[05:56] {Threei} be back in 5
[05:57] {dino} ldk capit, earnings were not that bad
[06:00] {esemde} gm all....
[06:01] {Threei} ese :)
[06:01] {esemde} Billy dino dp hawk jm lumdus
[06:01] {esemde} vad
[06:01] {Threei} LDK has a lot of controveries around it... it actually gor downgraded with traget in 30s today and upgrdaed with target 90
[06:02] {Threei} and it still has that audit thing unresolved
[06:02] {magoo} morning
[06:02] {Threei} mags :)
[06:02] {esemde} magoo
[06:02] {Threei} 3 million today?
[06:03] {esemde} dn$10 now though
[06:03] {magoo} ROFLOL
[06:03] {Threei} sold off big after market yesterday
[06:03] {dino} thx
[06:04] {esemde} news vad...or just dn grade
[06:04] {Threei} QCOM GUIDES Q1 $0.52-0.53 V 0.52E
[06:04] {Threei} earnings ese
[06:04] {Threei} not bad actually, inline
[06:04] {esemde} LDK earnings?
[06:04] {Threei} yeah
[06:05] {esemde} hmmm being punished huge
[06:06] {esemde} wonder if that will effect solars in general....
[06:07] {Threei} doesn't look like it has so far
[06:07] {Threei} SOLF looks steady, CSIQ too
[06:10] {magoo} short in orcl somewhere vad here?
[06:12] {Threei} no idea... it's not an easy trader by any means
[06:12] {Threei} jiggles a lot in narrow ranges, prone to shake out easily
[06:12] {magoo} ok
[06:20] {BillyD} CSUN gets no luv this morning
[06:23] {esemde} CKXE..ya baby!!! For the first time ever,
[06:23] {esemde} Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc. (EPE) has licensed a company to create replicas
[06:23] {esemde} of Elvis iconic jumpsuits. B & K Enterprises, known internationally for its
[06:23] {esemde} attention to detail in the creation of authentic replica jumpsuits worn by the
[06:23] {esemde} King of Rock and Roll, has signed a formal licensing partnership with EPE.
[06:24] {esemde} we all need to get one!!!!!!
[06:24] {esemde} team look.....what da ya think???
[06:24] {Threei} do we have to sing and dance too?
[06:24] {esemde} yes......
[06:25] {BillyD} does it come with a pull string
[06:25] {Threei} out of love for humanity I'll remove myself from this
[06:25] {BillyD} no pull stringh for vad's suit
[06:25] {Threei} me singing and dancing is as close to the end of civilization as you can get
[06:26] {esemde} roflol............
[06:26] {Threei} not even speaking of mortal danger for immediate observers
[06:26] {Threei} who weren't careful enough to get out of zone of horror
[06:29] {esemde} the.."anything to make a buck"..crowd has outdone themselves this time.....
[06:29] {BillyD} cultish
[06:30] {esemde} definately......funny thing is ..not alot of people know just how intellegent the man was
[06:30] {BillyD} he died of fright from the scary people imo
[06:31] {esemde} had something like over 1000 songs committed to memory.....
[06:32] {esemde} in his movies.....had his lines as well as the other actors lines memorized
[06:32] {Threei} ORCL .51 long
[06:33] {Threei} if stays above .40
[06:33] {Threei} invalidated
[06:33] {Threei} FCEL
[06:34] {esemde} ENER
[06:37] {Threei} PEIX 9.90 long if stays above .70
[06:37] {dino} smod s .90
[06:38] {Threei} invalidated
[06:38] {magoo} any read LEAP vad?
[06:39] {magoo} as i typed sigh
[06:39] {Threei} up but need pullback for entry
[06:39] {Threei} volatile and spready
[06:39] {liranm} Vad, ORCL?
[06:39] {magoo} yeah wow there
[06:40] {Threei} same stup as before on ORCL, just less confidence
[06:40] {Threei} if pulls back once again before breanking not losing .40 anymore, will look better
[06:40] {esemde} sorry long NFLX .44
[06:40] {Threei} like now
[06:41] {esemde} out...NFLX .77 +.33 half lot
[06:41] {Threei} nice
[06:42] {dino} gj
[06:42] {esemde} once again very quick......no thinking....i like those
[06:42] {Threei} yeah, profit and no headache caused by thinking
[06:42] {Threei} what could be better
[06:43] {Threei} ORCL lost .40 again
[06:43] {BillyD} volumes light on CSIQ and SOLF so far
[06:44] {dino} fold
[06:44] {Threei} RIGL long half lot .20
[06:44] {Threei} stop under 23
[06:44] {liranm} ???
[06:45] {liranm} OK
[06:45] {Threei} what?
[06:45] {Threei} 1:1
[06:47] {Threei} liranm?
[06:47] {esemde} LDK having effect on solars....up .01 ,.08 .11 not much from this group
[06:47] {liranm} Didn't catch it
[06:47] {dino} fold l .00, stop lod
[06:47] {lumdus} same here. i can type so quick
[06:47] {cosmo} flml
[06:48] {cosmo} 10.15 hod
[06:48] {magoo} rigl done vad or is there a reentry?
[06:49] {Threei} if holding above .25 from now on, .50 break
[06:49] {dino} fold stopped -.26
[06:49] {Threei} volatile one, be careful about slippage
[06:49] {magoo} leap jumped
[06:50] {dino} sgr l .25
[06:51] {lumdus} is rigl below reg volume ?
[06:51] {dino} bsc lod
[06:52] {magoo} man RIGL xplosive
[06:52] {magoo} missed that
[06:52] {Threei} 1:1 in a hurry
[06:53] {magoo} never got it
[06:53] {esemde} RIGL ...nice jump
[06:53] {lumdus} never able to get it and i moved quick
[06:53] {esemde} ...look at it go...
[06:54] {lumdus} vad has the great eye , just need a few sec heads up
[06:54] {Threei} second setup was called well in advance
[06:54] {BillyD} yes
[06:55] {BillyD} you just have to be committed
[06:55] {esemde} yes indeed
[06:55] {lumdus} yes, second setup in advance.
[06:55] {magoo} agree, just it jumped through trigger and i missed entry is all..good call..stock was fast
[06:55] {liranm} only took 30 cents. Idiot. I need a throut now
[06:56] {Threei} let's make a little pause...
[06:56] * magoo slaps liranm around a bit with a large trout
[06:56] {Threei} how do you route order in case like RIGL breakout?
[06:56] {BillyD} ISLD w/ 4-5 cents above imo
[06:56] {Threei} right
[06:56] {Threei} here is how I got it:
[06:57] {Threei} 500 shares, limit .55, when it approaches .50 I depress mouse button and keep it depressed,
[06:57] {Threei} .50 disappers I let button go
[06:57] {magoo} nice
[06:57] {Threei} if it never triggers I move curson away from Buy and let go
[06:58] {Threei} cursor
[06:58] {BillyD} wow
[06:58] {liranm} Vad, this is a great way to enter a stock BEFORE it breaks
[06:58] {BillyD} never did that
[06:58] {Threei} why before?
[06:58] {Threei} on this one I wanted after
[06:58] {liranm} the numbers are moving fast
[06:58] {Threei} it had too big resistance for a thin one at .50
[06:59] {Threei} I wanted to make sure it can gnaw through it
[06:59] {Threei} keeping button depressed in advance saves aamzingly useful amount of time
[07:00] {Threei} it's fraction of seconds of course but in many cases it's just what you need
[07:00] {magoo} i am in aw
[07:00] {Threei} just be careful not to let it go while pointing cursor at Buy if you don't want unintended fill
[07:00] {BillyD} just make sure you practice finger trick first, otherwise you place live order
[07:01] {lumdus} ok nice
[07:02] {Threei} this is for Laser, I don't know what nueances could be with other software systems
[07:03] {Threei} what's with JADE
[07:03] {Threei} NQ bounce time
[07:03] {BillyD} nothing I see
[07:03] {BillyD} but looking for short
[07:03] {cosmo} Bush on TV fyi
[07:03] {magoo} RIGL held well in hard mkt pullbk vad
[07:04] {dino} ddup
[07:04] {Threei} not sure magoo, feels mostly done to me
[07:04] {BillyD} ss JADE .98
[07:05] {Threei} it tends to overshoot sensible targets, but it's just a technical bounce on dailyt
[07:05] {magoo} will be a good scalp short then somewhere
[07:05] {magoo} 25 easy coming
[07:06] {dino} fsin
[07:06] {lumdus} nq bouncing up and down
[07:07] {Threei} a bit labored here RIGL, dontcha think?
[07:07] {dino} ddup l .00 stop .68
[07:07] {magoo} agee but 25 prints
[07:07] {BillyD} out JADE -.08
[07:07] {dino} missed fsin
[07:07] {Threei} nailed NQ bottom to the tick
[07:08] {lumdus} excellent nail..
[07:08] {dino} you the hammer
[07:09] {Threei} and everything around looks like nail to me
[07:09] {Threei} I think time to try it short mags
[07:09] {Threei} lol, if you blinked it's already late
[07:09] {Threei} down 40 cents ina joffy
[07:10] {Threei} jiffy too
[07:10] {BillyD} if you blink the entire play is over...lol
[07:10] {Threei} came into resistance again
[07:10] {Threei} 25.10 stop
[07:10] {lumdus} what stock ?
[07:11] {magoo} RIGL
[07:11] {Threei} discussing RIGL short lum...
[07:12] {lumdus} ok, not shroting rigl . outch
[07:13] {magoo} RIGL feels long vad
[07:13] {Threei} 5 minutes after original call? it's like an eternity for this stock :)
[07:14] {Threei} it was short at the momnent
[07:14] {BillyD} stopped on RIGL -.22
[07:14] {Threei} needs to be reevaluated when forms something new
[07:14] {magoo} well, my long scalp over also lol
[07:14] {magoo} FASSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTT
[07:16] {Threei} CSIQ half lot long .70 break if stays above .50
[07:20] {dino} tbsi l .20, stop .96
[07:21] {Threei} SOLF .50 long half lot
[07:21] {Threei} stop under .25
[07:29] {lumdus} solf please don't stop out now
[07:30] {dino} tbsi stopped -.29
[07:32] {Threei} CSIQ 1:1
[07:32] {Threei} again
[07:33] {dino} ddup stop to .28
[07:36] {dino} bfam l .50, stop .23
[07:37] {lumdus} csiq and solf - i just can't trade them. soemthing wrong with me
[07:37] {dino} out ddup +.24
[07:40] {lumdus} 3i, is it normal to have hard time sith solf and csiq. i just can't seem to get it right
[07:40] {Threei} both worked like charm
[07:41] {Threei} clear triggers and stops, unlike yesterday
[07:41] {lumdus} right, so i just put hard stops and hard triggers ?
[07:41] {Threei} I prefer manual trading
[07:42] {Threei} yesterday I could understand if you skipped those, wouldn't be able to blame anyone for not trading stocks with no technicals to them
[07:42] {Threei} but both these setups were quite clean
[07:43] {Threei} and even gave second chances
[07:43] {lumdus} the setup was on 1 min or 3 min ?
[07:43] {Threei} I watch 1
[07:44] {lumdus} ok, i guess i need to watch 1 min. was watching 3
[07:45] {Threei} I am not sure I understand lum... I gave them to the cent, no?
[07:45] {Threei} I mean details of setup
[07:45] {Threei} was I unclear?
[07:45] {Threei} let me know if so, I'll try to explain
[07:46] {BillyD} lum, the volatility of their nature is what probaly throws you off
[07:46] {Threei} true, that's why I call for half lot even so stops are within usual range
[07:46] {Threei} to account for possible slippage
[07:47] {Threei} even so = even though
[07:47] {lumdus} i think it's the volatility that i need to watch before i go in. those 2 i have problems with
[07:49] {liranm} lum, try trading TIVO :)
[07:49] {Threei} yuck
[07:49] {Threei} lol
[07:50] * magoo slaps liranm around a bit with a large trout
[07:50] {magoo} thats two lol
[07:50] {Threei} some day TIVO is going to break 8.50 and hev last laugh :)
[07:51] {lumdus} ok
[07:51] {Threei} then magoo is going to cry and blame me for skipping the call
[07:58] {Threei} guys, while it's quiet
[07:59] {Threei} I am going to leave you for Christmas - New Year, haven't had any downtime for a year and half
[08:00] {Threei} will be trading tomorrow with you,
[08:00] {BillyD} taking the CA trip?
[08:00] {Threei} then take a break and return Jan 5th or 6th, hopefully in one piece
[08:00] {Threei} yes, San Diego
[08:00] {BillyD} nice
[08:01] {Threei} feel free to ag Roman
[08:01] {BillyD} are you infilterating or visiting?
[08:01] {Threei} lol, visiting
[08:01] {BillyD} just checking
[08:01] {BillyD} :)
[08:02] {Threei} got a friend over there who worked in my business in Ukraine
[08:02] {BillyD} very cool
[08:02] {Threei} immigrated in 93 or 94
[08:02] {lumdus} so who runs the show when you not here ?
[08:02] {Threei} a lot of memories to share
[08:02] {BillyD} yeah, I bet
[08:02] {Threei} [11:01] {Threei} feel free to nag Roman
[08:03] {lumdus} ok, will go after him
[08:03] {Threei} I even will pretend I miss you all
[08:04] {dino} lol
[08:05] {dino} nflx
[08:05] {esemde} DBI or CApitulation NFLX
[08:05] {Threei} if .25 holding from here, .50 break becomes SOLF trigger again
[08:06] {magoo} we missed a heck of ashort scalp on LEAP
[08:06] {dino} thinking capit, but not yet
[08:06] {lumdus} oh, now i get the spread on solf is wacky
[08:07] {Threei} was it ever different ? :)
[08:08] {lumdus} no, i just figured why i can't trade the damm thing.
[08:08] {BillyD} lum, the volatile ones can tend to put you into an emotional state of mind which kills your focus
[08:08] {dino} mkt lod
[08:08] {BillyD} you have to really accept their nature before entering or maybe not a persons style at all
[08:09] {lumdus} yes, i think for now, might be good to watch. too crazy for me.
[08:09] {BillyD} RIGL holding up here
[08:12] {BillyD} Vad any read on RIGL
[08:12] {Threei} feels like has more upside... bnut can't nail down specific setup
[08:12] {esemde} go nowhere...do nothing market.....
[08:12] {BillyD} ok
[08:13] {magoo} caufght THAT .15
[08:13] {BillyD} nice
[08:13] {esemde} my 200shs of ESLR are doing nuting
[08:13] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[08:14] {Threei} no particular reason mags... just felt like right thing to do
[08:15] {dino} gsol l .97
[08:16] {magoo} all the way to 26
[08:21] {esemde} JADE
[08:25] {Threei} amazingly JADE still moves
[08:27] {esemde} it's been a while
[08:37] {Threei} XMSR
[08:37] {Threei} quick dive under 12 will be worth to try and catch bounce
[08:37] {Threei} diving
[08:38] {Threei} ok, that was uncatchable so far
[08:38] {Threei} but here is consolation:
[08:38] {BillyD} it was guessable
[08:38] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:39] {dino} nflx
[08:40] {esemde} nflx
[08:40] {magoo} XMSR u in?where?
[08:40] {dino} can't borrow
[08:40] {lumdus} got xmsr i am in
[08:40] {esemde} opps dino beat me to it
[08:41] {lumdus} in 12.02 when i get out ?
[08:41] {Threei} if loses .23
[08:41] {Threei} .25
[08:42] {Threei} offer it above .30
[08:42] {Threei} and don't let it lose .25 on you
[08:42] {lumdus} ok, i am losing here.. sell now .30 right ?
[08:42] {Threei} losing?
[08:42] {Threei} get out, lol
[08:43] {lumdus} ok, sotp .28
[08:43] {Threei} 28 cents, what are you, looking to get rich on a single trade?
[08:43] {dino} smod bstop to .79, won't move
[08:43] {lumdus} nice trade. thank.
[08:43] {Threei} welcome
[08:43] {dino} gsol to .28
[08:43] {lumdus} 3i, just to review a second. .25 you meant stop .. correct ?
[08:44] {Threei} yes
[08:44] {lumdus} ok, happy man here. i took tripple lot like an iditio
[08:44] {Threei} OK... you ARE looking to get rich on a single trade {G}
[08:44] {dino} gsol out, slippage at .23, +.26
[08:48] {magoo} any rread csiq solf here vad?
[08:48] {Threei} SOLF trade is still active
[08:48] {Threei} CSIQ, not sure
[08:49] {magoo} now see..to me..csiq looks like more interest coming in
[08:49] {Threei} here is the deal with them:
[08:50] {Threei} to me they look like there is a lot more upside
[08:50] {Threei} but they kind of became somewhat of a mainstream,
[08:50] {Threei} in a sense that they started following market to certain degree
[08:50] {dino} cov smod .79, +.1
[08:50] {Threei} which was not the case when whole solar hoopla just started
[08:50] {Threei} and market being quite jerky into holiday, hard to tell
[08:54] {magoo} do they follow FSLR?
[08:55] {Threei} don't know... gotta track it
[08:55] {Threei} leaders change weithin the grup
[08:55] {Threei} one of them gets fresh news and becomes a leader for the rest
[08:56] {Threei} or they all follow something else
[08:59] {dino} grnb bit of blood
[09:01] {Threei} DEC PHILADELPHIA FED INDEX: -5.7 V 6.0E
[09:01] {Threei} - Employment: 0.5 v 4.8 prior
[09:01] {Threei} - Prices Paid: 35.0 v 37.7 prior
[09:03] {dino} grnb l .17, stop .78
[09:04] {esemde} once again...have a great rest of the day everyone
[09:05] {esemde} see you tomorrow.....
[09:07] {dino} later ese
[09:24] {dino} ddup l .95 stop lod
[09:30] {Threei} LDK small shares long
[09:31] {Threei} as close to 49 as possible
[09:31] {Threei} stop 44.90
[09:31] {Threei} 49.90
[09:31] {Threei} grr
[09:31] {Threei} 48.90
[09:32] {Threei} there... got it right on third time
[09:32] {Threei} hard to push button and type with the same hand
[09:33] {Threei} not a scalp for me, target somewhere closer to 51
[09:34] {magoo} entry u get?
[09:34] {Threei} 49.22
[09:35] {magoo} in
[09:40] {dino} grnb out .65, +.48
[09:42] {dptl} got .22 ldk
[09:42] {magoo} good stop placement
[09:42] {Threei} needs to chew through .80
[09:46] {magoo} like wasn't there
[09:46] {Threei} chewing is completed successfully
[09:47] {Threei} nice profit here guys, manage yourself please
[09:49] {dptl} out+.60 ldk ty
[09:49] {Threei} welcome
[09:49] {Threei} +1
[09:50] {Threei} 1:3
[09:50] {dino} nice
[09:55] {Threei} out in full and fully satisfied
[09:55] {Threei} .75
[09:55] {Threei} +1.53
[09:55] {Threei} I think
[09:55] {Threei} was it worth the wait?
[09:56] {magoo} out + buck TY
[09:57] {Threei} :)
[10:17] {magoo} is it good for second try?
[10:18] {Threei} hmmm
[10:19] {Threei} tough call, not sure
[10:22] {Threei} market abandoned depressive stage of its today's cycle and went in maniak one
[10:22] {Threei} it's in a bad need of Prozac if you ask me
[10:23] {dino} and a kick
[10:28] {Threei} I would gladly provide one
[10:28] {lumdus} ok, i can't eat lunch here. go away and you get 1.00 on LDK !
[10:28] {Threei} sorry
[10:29] {Threei} and it's 1.53
[10:29] {Threei} not that it makes it easier for you
[10:29] {Threei} but that was not my intention either :)
[10:32] {lumdus} yeah, right, i believe you. stick it to me - ouch !
[10:32] {Threei} that's my role, you see...
[10:33] {Threei} tough love is my pep talk
[10:33] {lumdus} i bet you while i am here we find no setups.
[10:34] {Threei} baiting me? :)
[10:34] {lumdus} y
[10:34] {Threei} won't work
[10:35] {Threei} I am unbaitable
[10:35] {Threei} non-baitable?
[10:36] {Threei} market giveth me taketh... market no giveth, me sits and yawns
[10:36] {lumdus} same here
[10:39] {Threei} LEAP
[10:39] {Threei} ugh
[10:39] {Threei} too fast
[10:39] {dino} leap
[10:39] {dino} opps
[10:40] {dino} that thing was 32 bucks couple days ago
[10:40] {lumdus} ok, so let's rewind time .
[10:40] {dino} s .00
[10:41] {Threei} yeah, I'll try to slow Oswald down, dino will get JFK out of the line of fire
[10:42] {Threei} holding too well for my taste
[10:42] {Threei} if takes .10, I'd try it long
[10:42] {dptl} leap you mean?
[10:42] {Threei} yes
[10:42] {dino} bstop is .32 enterred
[10:43] {Threei} 47 is crucial for it
[10:43] {Threei} ok, lost
[10:43] {Threei} should work now
[10:43] {Threei} sheesh
[10:44] {BillyD} no such thing as a tight stop these days
[10:44] {dino} well that sucked
[10:44] {lumdus} out leap +.23 tx
[10:44] {dino} gj lum
[10:44] {Threei} welcome
[10:45] {dino} off my screen
[10:51] {Threei} mags
[10:51] {magoo} yes
[10:52] {Threei} tell me you are glad we haven't tried LDK again
[10:52] {Threei} blood-letting in full force
[10:52] {magoo} yes..ty
[10:52] {Threei} blood-letting on a magnitude of oil extraction
[10:52] {Threei} in arab gulf
[10:53] {Threei} or candian oilsands
[10:54] {magoo} that terlls something...this mkt is ready to crash in the new year
[10:54] {magoo} merciless punishment
[10:54] {Threei} how do you figure?
[10:54] {magoo} my god..17 points
[10:55] {magoo} everyone is ready to bail;
[10:55] {Threei} theskyisfalling?
[10:55] {Threei} (Raven ®)
[10:57] {dino} tbsi
[10:57] {Raven} checking
[10:58] {Threei} with ambrella in hand?
[10:58] {Raven} sigh
[10:58] {Raven} ambrella
[10:58] {Raven} arghhh
[10:58] {dino} umbrella
[10:58] {Threei} glad I woke you up :)
[10:58] * Raven slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[10:58] {Chaeron} it's ok Raven... let it go for the holidays
[10:58] {Raven} hiya Ch :)
[10:59] {Threei} I increased my rate of mistype by factor 2 lately
[10:59] {Threei} yet you still slpet
[10:59] {Threei} slept too
[10:59] {magoo} lwishflisfhwlkhfwkhakwh
[10:59] {Chaeron} hi bud :)) honor to be on the same field as you Raven... hope you're well
[10:59] {Raven} I was overwhelmed ... that's all
[10:59] {Threei} oh
[10:59] {Threei} I overdid it
[10:59] {Threei} sorry
[10:59] {Raven} sheesh ..
[10:59] {Threei} provided for a good nap though
[10:59] {Raven} well here Ch
[11:00] {Raven} cold though
[11:01] {lumdus} i don't even see anything trading on my screen
[11:02] {Threei} pokemon cards should still be trading actively
[11:02] {Threei} oops... sorry... reminiscences of 1999
[11:03] {lumdus} i lost 10 on that already
[11:10] {Threei} can't overcome strong feeling of big reun up written all over SOLF
[11:10] {Threei} not intraday
[11:12] {BillyD} yeah, was just enough to stop us earlier
[11:13] {Threei} that was just a scalp attempt... I am talking about real move
[11:13] {BillyD} i know
[11:13] {Threei} 30-35, and I am being conservative
[11:13] {BillyD} just need a wider stop and longer time frame
[11:14] {Threei} not my domain so I better shut up before I hurt someone
[11:14] {BillyD} ROFLOL
[11:15] {Threei} you would think I should already know better than share these vague feelings eh
[11:15] {BillyD} at leats I was nice
[11:15] {BillyD} least
[11:15] {Threei} I appreciate it
[11:15] {BillyD} :)
[11:16] {lumdus} again, solf, wont even look at the damm stock
[11:16] {dino} sm s fxp .80
[11:16] {BillyD} look at PEIX.....thought it was most hated stock earlier w/ no bounce....now back up
[11:16] {Threei} what can I say... SOLF crashes and burns, you are a hero... SOLF goes to 35 - you won't hear the end of it, trust me {G}
[11:17] {lumdus} it could go to the moo, i couldnt' care less.
[11:17] {Threei} we will see {evi laughter}
[11:18] {lumdus} you can loose .11 just on the spread
[11:19] {BillyD} that is mild at times lum. it is its nature
[11:20] {Threei} I miss fractions...
[11:20] {Threei} 1/8 spread was timid stock
[11:20] {BillyD} yes
[11:20] {Threei} 1/4 - 3/8 almost norm
[11:20] {Threei} decimals got you so compacent guys :)
[11:21] {Threei} and in case you forgot how to interprete those, 1/8 = 12.5 cents
[11:27] {dino} cov fxp .40, +.40
[11:27] {Raven} ah yes ... fractions ... 1/2 point spread and a $700 commission on 1000 shares of a $30 stock
[11:27] {Threei} lol
[11:28] {Threei} nah, max commissions I had was 29.95
[11:28] {Raven} and that's no shit
[11:28] {Raven} before your time ... boy
[11:28] {magoo} well...u had a FULL service broker watching your back raven he he
[11:28] {BillyD} rofl
[11:29] {Threei} fine watching of a fine back that was
[11:29] {Raven} there were ONLY Full service brokers then
[11:29] {Raven} talk about a rigged system
[11:30] {Raven} damn stock had to go up $1.50 just to cover the commission
[11:30] {Raven} a real scalpers paradise :)
[11:30] {Threei} lol
[11:30] {liranm} Vad. NVDA?
[11:31] {Threei} I doubt it
[11:31] {Threei} barely returned to day high while NQ made a lot of new ones
[11:32] {liranm} OK
[11:32] {Threei} of course with 1/2 spread it would take just 3-4 small time buyers to get that $1.50 Raven :)
[11:33] {Threei} gosh liranm... you were out
[11:33] {Threei} missed LDK :(
[11:33] {Raven} you're thinking too hard now, 3i :)
[11:34] {Threei} rarely do I get blamed with that
[11:34] {Raven} face it ... scalpers did NOT exist
[11:34] {Threei} no, not in today's sesne of the word :)
[11:35] {Raven} in any sense of the word
[11:35] {Raven} if you wanted action in those days you traded commodity futures
[11:35] {Threei} well... marketmakers scalping the spread did exist
[11:35] {Raven} yes ... that is true
[11:35] {Threei} and daytrading as phenomena was around even in Jesse times :)
[11:35] {Raven} stealing the spread was more like it
[11:36] {Threei} eith THOSE spreads, yeah, lol
[11:37] {Chaeron} and retail guys they worked for getting the spread and marking it up or down 5% commission on top
[11:37] {Raven} you could scalp soybeans and corn and bellies tho
[11:37] {Raven} right Chaeron
[11:37] {Threei} beliies I still can
[11:37] {Chaeron} wouldn't do that back then unless on the floor
[11:37] {Threei} wait... you said scalp, I thought scratch
[11:37] {Raven} yup
[11:37] {Raven} sigh
[11:38] {Raven} you'd eat that bacon contract, 3i :)
[11:38] {Threei} and I am very skillful in scalping corn from the cob
[11:38] {Raven} glutton
[11:39] {Chaeron} wanna see *real* traders? go on the floor of CME ... S&P pit
[11:39] {Threei} as if I missed strong BO...
[11:39] {Raven} pretty much like the bean pit in the 1970's Chaeron
[11:40] {BillyD} Vad is now talking to himself
[11:40] {Raven} screeching and spitting and fighting
[11:40] {Threei} ENER, want pullback from here
[11:40] {Threei} so .50 re-test becomes a trigger
[11:40] {Raven} magoo would love it
[11:41] {Threei} too jerky... not delighted
[11:41] {Threei} skipped it personally, if anyone take it keep stop .35
[11:41] {Chaeron} traders then would eat tons of raw garlic or not bathe for days so that the stench would make other traders stand far away from them so that they would get their hand signals read and others to easily trade with them.. lol
[11:41] {Threei} there you go... told you, strong BO
[11:42] {Raven} lol ... I never witnessed that :)
[11:42] {Raven} but then I always stood on the top of the pits
[11:43] {Raven} to preserve my life
[11:44] {Chaeron} stab each other with pencils to get them to get out of their line of sight... one guy broke his leg jumping up and down on the "step" of his contract month and accidentally fell early in trading. Crawled by himself to the edge of the floor with ppl stepping on him, not helping in the slightest until the day was over
[11:44] {BillyD} ROFLOL
[11:44] {Chaeron} and ppl complain here :))
[11:44] {Raven} sheesh
[11:45] {Threei} no kidding... snowwhites
[11:45] {BillyD} actually, Vad probably pushed him down the steps
[11:45] {Chaeron} lol
[11:45] {Threei} lol
[11:45] {Threei} not if I had a gun on me billy
[11:45] {BillyD} afterall, he says ener on .50 break and then recants
[11:45] {Raven} I saw a number of fistfights
[11:45] {dino} rell s .22
[11:46] {BillyD} I could see vad in the pits, biting, clawing, spiting
[11:46] {BillyD} shooting
[11:48] {LaserDave1} ya you would read it in the paper the next day
[11:48] {LaserDave1} strange man swinging trout at people in the pits
[11:49] {Threei} {Threei} not if I had a gun on me billy
[11:49] {BillyD} uh oh
[11:49] {Threei} why bother with all that violence
[11:49] {Threei} and prolong someones agony
[11:50] {BillyD} Vad is a modern man
[11:50] {Threei} merciful shooting is my favorite way to commmunicate with people
[11:50] {BillyD} using modern tools as means of frustration management
[11:50] {Threei} somehow, as a result, not too many people around me though
[11:51] {Threei} but that's OK, saves ammo
[11:51] {BillyD} you kill me
[11:51] {BillyD} no pun intended
[11:51] {Threei} lol
[11:52] {Raven} {}
[11:52] {Threei} ask dp... last time we met he actually opted to having bulletproof vest on at all times
[11:52] {BillyD} it worked, he lives to tell about it
[11:52] {dptl} :)
[11:54] {Threei} patience talks to me strictly through the barely cracked window in her car... and esemde screens my phone calls out
[11:55] {magoo} leap news here..nice pullnbk
[11:55] {Threei} on, and Chaeron left Las Vegas expo 3 days before it was over when saw me on the expo floor... and whole thing was 4 days
[11:56] {Chaeron} I Was in town for only hours Vad..... :P
[11:56] {Threei} I don't see fresh news on my wires
[11:56] {Threei} yeah, that's what you exclaimed hurrying into cab
[11:57] {Chaeron} lol... at least we rode together
[11:57] {dino} rell bstop to .06
[11:57] {Threei} only because I tore off the door
[11:57] {Chaeron} lol
[11:57] {dino} make it .02
[11:58] {dino} to .92
[11:59] {Threei} roman, dcc please?
[12:00] {dino} cov .90, +.32
[12:01] {dino} omni
[12:02] {dino} back in 10
[12:02] {lumdus} dino, don't go. I did and paid 1.50 for it !
[12:10] {Threei} 1.53
[12:10] {Threei} sorry lum... won't let you get away with even 3 cents truth distrotion
[12:10] {lumdus} your bad
[12:11] {Threei} and proud of it
[12:11] {lumdus} that's the problem :)
[12:11] {Threei} whose?? :)
[12:11] {lumdus} the world
[12:11] {lumdus} anywhow, back to fighting the maket now.
[12:12] {Threei} ah world.... world has made-up global warming to resolve before I become its problem :)
[12:13] {lumdus} too funny 3i
[12:15] {dptl} ener?
[12:16] {Threei} it's trying to establish range for break...
[12:16] {Threei} .22 is probably worth a try if holding above .10
[12:16] {Threei} NQ is likely to help, looks preparing for another leg up
[12:17] {magoo} how aboyt LEAP long?
[12:17] {Threei} don't have anything on LEAP, sorry...
[12:18] {Threei} kind of in the middle of everything
[12:19] {magoo} k
[12:21] {dptl} ener still good to try?
[12:22] {Threei} nopt here
[12:22] {dptl} .30?
[12:23] {Threei} no no... that's too far from support
[12:23] {Threei} around .20 it made sense
[12:23] {dptl} i see
[12:23] {dino} spir
[12:23] {Threei} here, no
[12:31] {Threei} relentless selling, LDK
[12:32] {BillyD} who can time it
[12:32] {Threei} SOLF
[12:32] {Threei} half lot with stiop just under 25
[12:33] {dino} fxp sm l .20
[12:34] {BillyD} in .06
[12:34] {lumdus} in 10k shares in solf - paper trade :)
[12:34] {dptl} in .04
[12:36] {dino} txco
[12:38] {BillyD} out 1/2 +.12
[12:39] {dptl} out +.14ty
[12:39] {magoo} lum, u should at least cut 5k loose here lol
[12:40] {BillyD} rofl
[12:40] {Threei} welcome
[12:40] {lumdus} funny
[12:40] {lumdus} i can't even trade the damm thing on paper forget real money
[12:41] {dino} kndl
[12:42] {Threei} what to trade... there is an offer at acceptable price, take it...
[12:42] {Threei} then offer it out as it goes in your favor, or caatch a bid you like and hit it
[12:44] {Threei} I think tyou are exaggerating the difficulties with this type
[12:45] {lumdus} ok, maybe. I am trying to paper trade it untill i can get a hang of it.
[12:45] {Threei} it's not RIMM or AAPL that can move 50 cents faster than you can blink
[12:45] {BillyD} well, not on this move, but it can at times
[12:45] {Threei} or, god forbid, GOOG
[12:45] {lumdus} but it doesn't trade flowingly it goes in sperts
[12:46] {lumdus} never good
[12:46] {dino} stopped fxp
[12:46] {magoo} lum, u should try easier personality stox..er, um, say like BIDU
[12:47] * Threei observes lumdus reaching for the trout and takes first seat with popcorn in hand
[12:47] {lumdus} you said it. 3i
[12:47] {dptl} {"()))){
[12:47] {Threei} rofl
[12:48] {Threei} that's one funny fish
[12:48] {Threei} with ears
[12:48] {dptl} lol
[12:48] {dptl} thats eyes
[12:49] {Threei} nope
[12:49] {Threei} that was my first thought
[12:49] {Threei} but fish has eyes on a side, not sticking out on the top :)
[12:50] {Raven} {o()))))){{ ?
[12:50] {Threei} this one with eye, yes
[12:50] {dptl} lol....there you go
[12:50] {BillyD} out more at .30
[12:50] {Threei} dp's one with ears
[12:51] {Raven} what a room
[12:51] {Threei} and fish with ears sends me in laughter spasms
[12:51] {Raven} hard to find ... like chicken lips
[12:52] {Threei} or dog with gills
[12:53] {BillyD} out last SOLF +.30 thx Vad
[12:53] {Threei} welcome sir :)
[12:53] {Threei} amzing r/r
[12:53] {Threei} 7-8 cents risk
[12:53] {BillyD} yes
[12:53] {dino} s kndl .03
[12:53] {Threei} never jeopradize stop, never made you sweat
[12:53] {Threei} and lum no likey
[12:54] {BillyD} that was clearest trade for me today......been in an unclarity type of day
[12:56] {dino} kndl bstop to .99
[12:57] {Threei} Ok guysd, thank you all
[12:57] {Threei} that was fun day somehow
[12:57] {dino} ldk -20
[12:57] {magoo} ty vad
[12:58] {Threei} some nice profitable trades, and a lot of humor
[12:58] {BillyD} cya Vad
[12:58] {Threei} unfortunately my contribution was as always...
[12:58] {Threei} questionable
[12:58] {BillyD} actually, you made me laugh when needed
[12:58] {dptl} have a good evening all
[12:58] {BillyD} Vad in the pits lol
[12:58] {Threei} but I decided once and for all, I have too muc respect for Seinfield to make his life any tougher than it is
[12:59] {Threei} see you all tomorrow
[12:59] {dino} kndl stopped flat
[13:00] {dino} gn all
Session Time: Thu Dec 20 00:00:00 2007
[05:44] {Threei} Good morning
[05:46] {cosmo} {ORCL} agree...
[05:46] {cosmo} fwiw
[05:46] {Threei} really
[05:47] {Threei} {NVAX} yeah me too
[05:47] {BillyD} morning
[05:47] {Threei} billy :)
[05:50] {lumdus} morning all
[05:50] {Threei} lum :)
[05:53] {Threei} SOLF has this detrmined look again
[05:53] {dptl} good morning all
[05:53] {Threei} dp :)
[05:56] {dino} gm all
[05:56] {Threei} dino :)
[05:56] {dino} :)
[05:56] {Threei} be back in 5
[05:57] {dino} ldk capit, earnings were not that bad
[06:00] {esemde} gm all....
[06:01] {Threei} ese :)
[06:01] {esemde} Billy dino dp hawk jm lumdus
[06:01] {esemde} vad
[06:01] {Threei} LDK has a lot of controveries around it... it actually gor downgraded with traget in 30s today and upgrdaed with target 90
[06:02] {Threei} and it still has that audit thing unresolved
[06:02] {magoo} morning
[06:02] {Threei} mags :)
[06:02] {esemde} magoo
[06:02] {Threei} 3 million today?
[06:03] {esemde} dn$10 now though
[06:03] {magoo} ROFLOL
[06:03] {Threei} sold off big after market yesterday
[06:03] {dino} thx
[06:04] {esemde} news vad...or just dn grade
[06:04] {Threei} QCOM GUIDES Q1 $0.52-0.53 V 0.52E
[06:04] {Threei} earnings ese
[06:04] {Threei} not bad actually, inline
[06:04] {esemde} LDK earnings?
[06:04] {Threei} yeah
[06:05] {esemde} hmmm being punished huge
[06:06] {esemde} wonder if that will effect solars in general....
[06:07] {Threei} doesn't look like it has so far
[06:07] {Threei} SOLF looks steady, CSIQ too
[06:10] {magoo} short in orcl somewhere vad here?
[06:12] {Threei} no idea... it's not an easy trader by any means
[06:12] {Threei} jiggles a lot in narrow ranges, prone to shake out easily
[06:12] {magoo} ok
[06:20] {BillyD} CSUN gets no luv this morning
[06:23] {esemde} CKXE..ya baby!!! For the first time ever,
[06:23] {esemde} Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc. (EPE) has licensed a company to create replicas
[06:23] {esemde} of Elvis iconic jumpsuits. B & K Enterprises, known internationally for its
[06:23] {esemde} attention to detail in the creation of authentic replica jumpsuits worn by the
[06:23] {esemde} King of Rock and Roll, has signed a formal licensing partnership with EPE.
[06:24] {esemde} we all need to get one!!!!!!
[06:24] {esemde} team look.....what da ya think???
[06:24] {Threei} do we have to sing and dance too?
[06:24] {esemde} yes......
[06:25] {BillyD} does it come with a pull string
[06:25] {Threei} out of love for humanity I'll remove myself from this
[06:25] {BillyD} no pull stringh for vad's suit
[06:25] {Threei} me singing and dancing is as close to the end of civilization as you can get
[06:26] {esemde} roflol............
[06:26] {Threei} not even speaking of mortal danger for immediate observers
[06:26] {Threei} who weren't careful enough to get out of zone of horror
[06:29] {esemde} the.."anything to make a buck"..crowd has outdone themselves this time.....
[06:29] {BillyD} cultish
[06:30] {esemde} definately......funny thing is ..not alot of people know just how intellegent the man was
[06:30] {BillyD} he died of fright from the scary people imo
[06:31] {esemde} had something like over 1000 songs committed to memory.....
[06:32] {esemde} in his movies.....had his lines as well as the other actors lines memorized
[06:32] {Threei} ORCL .51 long
[06:33] {Threei} if stays above .40
[06:33] {Threei} invalidated
[06:33] {Threei} FCEL
[06:34] {esemde} ENER
[06:37] {Threei} PEIX 9.90 long if stays above .70
[06:37] {dino} smod s .90
[06:38] {Threei} invalidated
[06:38] {magoo} any read LEAP vad?
[06:39] {magoo} as i typed sigh
[06:39] {Threei} up but need pullback for entry
[06:39] {Threei} volatile and spready
[06:39] {liranm} Vad, ORCL?
[06:39] {magoo} yeah wow there
[06:40] {Threei} same stup as before on ORCL, just less confidence
[06:40] {Threei} if pulls back once again before breanking not losing .40 anymore, will look better
[06:40] {esemde} sorry long NFLX .44
[06:40] {Threei} like now
[06:41] {esemde} out...NFLX .77 +.33 half lot
[06:41] {Threei} nice
[06:42] {dino} gj
[06:42] {esemde} once again very quick......no thinking....i like those
[06:42] {Threei} yeah, profit and no headache caused by thinking
[06:42] {Threei} what could be better
[06:43] {Threei} ORCL lost .40 again
[06:43] {BillyD} volumes light on CSIQ and SOLF so far
[06:44] {dino} fold
[06:44] {Threei} RIGL long half lot .20
[06:44] {Threei} stop under 23
[06:44] {liranm} ???
[06:45] {liranm} OK
[06:45] {Threei} what?
[06:45] {Threei} 1:1
[06:47] {Threei} liranm?
[06:47] {esemde} LDK having effect on solars....up .01 ,.08 .11 not much from this group
[06:47] {liranm} Didn't catch it
[06:47] {dino} fold l .00, stop lod
[06:47] {lumdus} same here. i can type so quick
[06:47] {cosmo} flml
[06:48] {cosmo} 10.15 hod
[06:48] {magoo} rigl done vad or is there a reentry?
[06:49] {Threei} if holding above .25 from now on, .50 break
[06:49] {dino} fold stopped -.26
[06:49] {Threei} volatile one, be careful about slippage
[06:49] {magoo} leap jumped
[06:50] {dino} sgr l .25
[06:51] {lumdus} is rigl below reg volume ?
[06:51] {dino} bsc lod
[06:52] {magoo} man RIGL xplosive
[06:52] {magoo} missed that
[06:52] {Threei} 1:1 in a hurry
[06:53] {magoo} never got it
[06:53] {esemde} RIGL ...nice jump
[06:53] {lumdus} never able to get it and i moved quick
[06:53] {esemde} ...look at it go...
[06:54] {lumdus} vad has the great eye , just need a few sec heads up
[06:54] {Threei} second setup was called well in advance
[06:54] {BillyD} yes
[06:55] {BillyD} you just have to be committed
[06:55] {esemde} yes indeed
[06:55] {lumdus} yes, second setup in advance.
[06:55] {magoo} agree, just it jumped through trigger and i missed entry is all..good call..stock was fast
[06:55] {liranm} only took 30 cents. Idiot. I need a throut now
[06:56] {Threei} let's make a little pause...
[06:56] * magoo slaps liranm around a bit with a large trout
[06:56] {Threei} how do you route order in case like RIGL breakout?
[06:56] {BillyD} ISLD w/ 4-5 cents above imo
[06:56] {Threei} right
[06:56] {Threei} here is how I got it:
[06:57] {Threei} 500 shares, limit .55, when it approaches .50 I depress mouse button and keep it depressed,
[06:57] {Threei} .50 disappers I let button go
[06:57] {magoo} nice
[06:57] {Threei} if it never triggers I move curson away from Buy and let go
[06:58] {Threei} cursor
[06:58] {BillyD} wow
[06:58] {liranm} Vad, this is a great way to enter a stock BEFORE it breaks
[06:58] {BillyD} never did that
[06:58] {Threei} why before?
[06:58] {Threei} on this one I wanted after
[06:58] {liranm} the numbers are moving fast
[06:58] {Threei} it had too big resistance for a thin one at .50
[06:59] {Threei} I wanted to make sure it can gnaw through it
[06:59] {Threei} keeping button depressed in advance saves aamzingly useful amount of time
[07:00] {Threei} it's fraction of seconds of course but in many cases it's just what you need
[07:00] {magoo} i am in aw
[07:00] {Threei} just be careful not to let it go while pointing cursor at Buy if you don't want unintended fill
[07:00] {BillyD} just make sure you practice finger trick first, otherwise you place live order
[07:01] {lumdus} ok nice
[07:02] {Threei} this is for Laser, I don't know what nueances could be with other software systems
[07:03] {Threei} what's with JADE
[07:03] {Threei} NQ bounce time
[07:03] {BillyD} nothing I see
[07:03] {BillyD} but looking for short
[07:03] {cosmo} Bush on TV fyi
[07:03] {magoo} RIGL held well in hard mkt pullbk vad
[07:04] {dino} ddup
[07:04] {Threei} not sure magoo, feels mostly done to me
[07:04] {BillyD} ss JADE .98
[07:05] {Threei} it tends to overshoot sensible targets, but it's just a technical bounce on dailyt
[07:05] {magoo} will be a good scalp short then somewhere
[07:05] {magoo} 25 easy coming
[07:06] {dino} fsin
[07:06] {lumdus} nq bouncing up and down
[07:07] {Threei} a bit labored here RIGL, dontcha think?
[07:07] {dino} ddup l .00 stop .68
[07:07] {magoo} agee but 25 prints
[07:07] {BillyD} out JADE -.08
[07:07] {dino} missed fsin
[07:07] {Threei} nailed NQ bottom to the tick
[07:08] {lumdus} excellent nail..
[07:08] {dino} you the hammer
[07:09] {Threei} and everything around looks like nail to me
[07:09] {Threei} I think time to try it short mags
[07:09] {Threei} lol, if you blinked it's already late
[07:09] {Threei} down 40 cents ina joffy
[07:10] {Threei} jiffy too
[07:10] {BillyD} if you blink the entire play is over...lol
[07:10] {Threei} came into resistance again
[07:10] {Threei} 25.10 stop
[07:10] {lumdus} what stock ?
[07:11] {magoo} RIGL
[07:11] {Threei} discussing RIGL short lum...
[07:12] {lumdus} ok, not shroting rigl . outch
[07:13] {magoo} RIGL feels long vad
[07:13] {Threei} 5 minutes after original call? it's like an eternity for this stock :)
[07:14] {Threei} it was short at the momnent
[07:14] {BillyD} stopped on RIGL -.22
[07:14] {Threei} needs to be reevaluated when forms something new
[07:14] {magoo} well, my long scalp over also lol
[07:14] {magoo} FASSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTT
[07:16] {Threei} CSIQ half lot long .70 break if stays above .50
[07:20] {dino} tbsi l .20, stop .96
[07:21] {Threei} SOLF .50 long half lot
[07:21] {Threei} stop under .25
[07:29] {lumdus} solf please don't stop out now
[07:30] {dino} tbsi stopped -.29
[07:32] {Threei} CSIQ 1:1
[07:32] {Threei} again
[07:33] {dino} ddup stop to .28
[07:36] {dino} bfam l .50, stop .23
[07:37] {lumdus} csiq and solf - i just can't trade them. soemthing wrong with me
[07:37] {dino} out ddup +.24
[07:40] {lumdus} 3i, is it normal to have hard time sith solf and csiq. i just can't seem to get it right
[07:40] {Threei} both worked like charm
[07:41] {Threei} clear triggers and stops, unlike yesterday
[07:41] {lumdus} right, so i just put hard stops and hard triggers ?
[07:41] {Threei} I prefer manual trading
[07:42] {Threei} yesterday I could understand if you skipped those, wouldn't be able to blame anyone for not trading stocks with no technicals to them
[07:42] {Threei} but both these setups were quite clean
[07:43] {Threei} and even gave second chances
[07:43] {lumdus} the setup was on 1 min or 3 min ?
[07:43] {Threei} I watch 1
[07:44] {lumdus} ok, i guess i need to watch 1 min. was watching 3
[07:45] {Threei} I am not sure I understand lum... I gave them to the cent, no?
[07:45] {Threei} I mean details of setup
[07:45] {Threei} was I unclear?
[07:45] {Threei} let me know if so, I'll try to explain
[07:46] {BillyD} lum, the volatility of their nature is what probaly throws you off
[07:46] {Threei} true, that's why I call for half lot even so stops are within usual range
[07:46] {Threei} to account for possible slippage
[07:47] {Threei} even so = even though
[07:47] {lumdus} i think it's the volatility that i need to watch before i go in. those 2 i have problems with
[07:49] {liranm} lum, try trading TIVO :)
[07:49] {Threei} yuck
[07:49] {Threei} lol
[07:50] * magoo slaps liranm around a bit with a large trout
[07:50] {magoo} thats two lol
[07:50] {Threei} some day TIVO is going to break 8.50 and hev last laugh :)
[07:51] {lumdus} ok
[07:51] {Threei} then magoo is going to cry and blame me for skipping the call
[07:58] {Threei} guys, while it's quiet
[07:59] {Threei} I am going to leave you for Christmas - New Year, haven't had any downtime for a year and half
[08:00] {Threei} will be trading tomorrow with you,
[08:00] {BillyD} taking the CA trip?
[08:00] {Threei} then take a break and return Jan 5th or 6th, hopefully in one piece
[08:00] {Threei} yes, San Diego
[08:00] {BillyD} nice
[08:01] {Threei} feel free to ag Roman
[08:01] {BillyD} are you infilterating or visiting?
[08:01] {Threei} lol, visiting
[08:01] {BillyD} just checking
[08:01] {BillyD} :)
[08:02] {Threei} got a friend over there who worked in my business in Ukraine
[08:02] {BillyD} very cool
[08:02] {Threei} immigrated in 93 or 94
[08:02] {lumdus} so who runs the show when you not here ?
[08:02] {Threei} a lot of memories to share
[08:02] {BillyD} yeah, I bet
[08:02] {Threei} [11:01] {Threei} feel free to nag Roman
[08:03] {lumdus} ok, will go after him
[08:03] {Threei} I even will pretend I miss you all
[08:04] {dino} lol
[08:05] {dino} nflx
[08:05] {esemde} DBI or CApitulation NFLX
[08:05] {Threei} if .25 holding from here, .50 break becomes SOLF trigger again
[08:06] {magoo} we missed a heck of ashort scalp on LEAP
[08:06] {dino} thinking capit, but not yet
[08:06] {lumdus} oh, now i get the spread on solf is wacky
[08:07] {Threei} was it ever different ? :)
[08:08] {lumdus} no, i just figured why i can't trade the damm thing.
[08:08] {BillyD} lum, the volatile ones can tend to put you into an emotional state of mind which kills your focus
[08:08] {dino} mkt lod
[08:08] {BillyD} you have to really accept their nature before entering or maybe not a persons style at all
[08:09] {lumdus} yes, i think for now, might be good to watch. too crazy for me.
[08:09] {BillyD} RIGL holding up here
[08:12] {BillyD} Vad any read on RIGL
[08:12] {Threei} feels like has more upside... bnut can't nail down specific setup
[08:12] {esemde} go nowhere...do nothing market.....
[08:12] {BillyD} ok
[08:13] {magoo} caufght THAT .15
[08:13] {BillyD} nice
[08:13] {esemde} my 200shs of ESLR are doing nuting
[08:13] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[08:14] {Threei} no particular reason mags... just felt like right thing to do
[08:15] {dino} gsol l .97
[08:16] {magoo} all the way to 26
[08:21] {esemde} JADE
[08:25] {Threei} amazingly JADE still moves
[08:27] {esemde} it's been a while
[08:37] {Threei} XMSR
[08:37] {Threei} quick dive under 12 will be worth to try and catch bounce
[08:37] {Threei} diving
[08:38] {Threei} ok, that was uncatchable so far
[08:38] {Threei} but here is consolation:
[08:38] {BillyD} it was guessable
[08:38] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[08:39] {dino} nflx
[08:40] {esemde} nflx
[08:40] {magoo} XMSR u in?where?
[08:40] {dino} can't borrow
[08:40] {lumdus} got xmsr i am in
[08:40] {esemde} opps dino beat me to it
[08:41] {lumdus} in 12.02 when i get out ?
[08:41] {Threei} if loses .23
[08:41] {Threei} .25
[08:42] {Threei} offer it above .30
[08:42] {Threei} and don't let it lose .25 on you
[08:42] {lumdus} ok, i am losing here.. sell now .30 right ?
[08:42] {Threei} losing?
[08:42] {Threei} get out, lol
[08:43] {lumdus} ok, sotp .28
[08:43] {Threei} 28 cents, what are you, looking to get rich on a single trade?
[08:43] {dino} smod bstop to .79, won't move
[08:43] {lumdus} nice trade. thank.
[08:43] {Threei} welcome
[08:43] {dino} gsol to .28
[08:43] {lumdus} 3i, just to review a second. .25 you meant stop .. correct ?
[08:44] {Threei} yes
[08:44] {lumdus} ok, happy man here. i took tripple lot like an iditio
[08:44] {Threei} OK... you ARE looking to get rich on a single trade {G}
[08:44] {dino} gsol out, slippage at .23, +.26
[08:48] {magoo} any rread csiq solf here vad?
[08:48] {Threei} SOLF trade is still active
[08:48] {Threei} CSIQ, not sure
[08:49] {magoo} now see..to me..csiq looks like more interest coming in
[08:49] {Threei} here is the deal with them:
[08:50] {Threei} to me they look like there is a lot more upside
[08:50] {Threei} but they kind of became somewhat of a mainstream,
[08:50] {Threei} in a sense that they started following market to certain degree
[08:50] {dino} cov smod .79, +.1
[08:50] {Threei} which was not the case when whole solar hoopla just started
[08:50] {Threei} and market being quite jerky into holiday, hard to tell
[08:54] {magoo} do they follow FSLR?
[08:55] {Threei} don't know... gotta track it
[08:55] {Threei} leaders change weithin the grup
[08:55] {Threei} one of them gets fresh news and becomes a leader for the rest
[08:56] {Threei} or they all follow something else
[08:59] {dino} grnb bit of blood
[09:01] {Threei} DEC PHILADELPHIA FED INDEX: -5.7 V 6.0E
[09:01] {Threei} - Employment: 0.5 v 4.8 prior
[09:01] {Threei} - Prices Paid: 35.0 v 37.7 prior
[09:03] {dino} grnb l .17, stop .78
[09:04] {esemde} once again...have a great rest of the day everyone
[09:05] {esemde} see you tomorrow.....
[09:07] {dino} later ese
[09:24] {dino} ddup l .95 stop lod
[09:30] {Threei} LDK small shares long
[09:31] {Threei} as close to 49 as possible
[09:31] {Threei} stop 44.90
[09:31] {Threei} 49.90
[09:31] {Threei} grr
[09:31] {Threei} 48.90
[09:32] {Threei} there... got it right on third time
[09:32] {Threei} hard to push button and type with the same hand
[09:33] {Threei} not a scalp for me, target somewhere closer to 51
[09:34] {magoo} entry u get?
[09:34] {Threei} 49.22
[09:35] {magoo} in
[09:40] {dino} grnb out .65, +.48
[09:42] {dptl} got .22 ldk
[09:42] {magoo} good stop placement
[09:42] {Threei} needs to chew through .80
[09:46] {magoo} like wasn't there
[09:46] {Threei} chewing is completed successfully
[09:47] {Threei} nice profit here guys, manage yourself please
[09:49] {dptl} out+.60 ldk ty
[09:49] {Threei} welcome
[09:49] {Threei} +1
[09:50] {Threei} 1:3
[09:50] {dino} nice
[09:55] {Threei} out in full and fully satisfied
[09:55] {Threei} .75
[09:55] {Threei} +1.53
[09:55] {Threei} I think
[09:55] {Threei} was it worth the wait?
[09:56] {magoo} out + buck TY
[09:57] {Threei} :)
[10:17] {magoo} is it good for second try?
[10:18] {Threei} hmmm
[10:19] {Threei} tough call, not sure
[10:22] {Threei} market abandoned depressive stage of its today's cycle and went in maniak one
[10:22] {Threei} it's in a bad need of Prozac if you ask me
[10:23] {dino} and a kick
[10:28] {Threei} I would gladly provide one
[10:28] {lumdus} ok, i can't eat lunch here. go away and you get 1.00 on LDK !
[10:28] {Threei} sorry
[10:29] {Threei} and it's 1.53
[10:29] {Threei} not that it makes it easier for you
[10:29] {Threei} but that was not my intention either :)
[10:32] {lumdus} yeah, right, i believe you. stick it to me - ouch !
[10:32] {Threei} that's my role, you see...
[10:33] {Threei} tough love is my pep talk
[10:33] {lumdus} i bet you while i am here we find no setups.
[10:34] {Threei} baiting me? :)
[10:34] {lumdus} y
[10:34] {Threei} won't work
[10:35] {Threei} I am unbaitable
[10:35] {Threei} non-baitable?
[10:36] {Threei} market giveth me taketh... market no giveth, me sits and yawns
[10:36] {lumdus} same here
[10:39] {Threei} LEAP
[10:39] {Threei} ugh
[10:39] {Threei} too fast
[10:39] {dino} leap
[10:39] {dino} opps
[10:40] {dino} that thing was 32 bucks couple days ago
[10:40] {lumdus} ok, so let's rewind time .
[10:40] {dino} s .00
[10:41] {Threei} yeah, I'll try to slow Oswald down, dino will get JFK out of the line of fire
[10:42] {Threei} holding too well for my taste
[10:42] {Threei} if takes .10, I'd try it long
[10:42] {dptl} leap you mean?
[10:42] {Threei} yes
[10:42] {dino} bstop is .32 enterred
[10:43] {Threei} 47 is crucial for it
[10:43] {Threei} ok, lost
[10:43] {Threei} should work now
[10:43] {Threei} sheesh
[10:44] {BillyD} no such thing as a tight stop these days
[10:44] {dino} well that sucked
[10:44] {lumdus} out leap +.23 tx
[10:44] {dino} gj lum
[10:44] {Threei} welcome
[10:45] {dino} off my screen
[10:51] {Threei} mags
[10:51] {magoo} yes
[10:52] {Threei} tell me you are glad we haven't tried LDK again
[10:52] {Threei} blood-letting in full force
[10:52] {magoo} yes..ty
[10:52] {Threei} blood-letting on a magnitude of oil extraction
[10:52] {Threei} in arab gulf
[10:53] {Threei} or candian oilsands
[10:54] {magoo} that terlls something...this mkt is ready to crash in the new year
[10:54] {magoo} merciless punishment
[10:54] {Threei} how do you figure?
[10:54] {magoo} my god..17 points
[10:55] {magoo} everyone is ready to bail;
[10:55] {Threei} theskyisfalling?
[10:55] {Threei} (Raven ®)
[10:57] {dino} tbsi
[10:57] {Raven} checking
[10:58] {Threei} with ambrella in hand?
[10:58] {Raven} sigh
[10:58] {Raven} ambrella
[10:58] {Raven} arghhh
[10:58] {dino} umbrella
[10:58] {Threei} glad I woke you up :)
[10:58] * Raven slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[10:58] {Chaeron} it's ok Raven... let it go for the holidays
[10:58] {Raven} hiya Ch :)
[10:59] {Threei} I increased my rate of mistype by factor 2 lately
[10:59] {Threei} yet you still slpet
[10:59] {Threei} slept too
[10:59] {magoo} lwishflisfhwlkhfwkhakwh
[10:59] {Chaeron} hi bud :)) honor to be on the same field as you Raven... hope you're well
[10:59] {Raven} I was overwhelmed ... that's all
[10:59] {Threei} oh
[10:59] {Threei} I overdid it
[10:59] {Threei} sorry
[10:59] {Raven} sheesh ..
[10:59] {Threei} provided for a good nap though
[10:59] {Raven} well here Ch
[11:00] {Raven} cold though
[11:01] {lumdus} i don't even see anything trading on my screen
[11:02] {Threei} pokemon cards should still be trading actively
[11:02] {Threei} oops... sorry... reminiscences of 1999
[11:03] {lumdus} i lost 10 on that already
[11:10] {Threei} can't overcome strong feeling of big reun up written all over SOLF
[11:10] {Threei} not intraday
[11:12] {BillyD} yeah, was just enough to stop us earlier
[11:13] {Threei} that was just a scalp attempt... I am talking about real move
[11:13] {BillyD} i know
[11:13] {Threei} 30-35, and I am being conservative
[11:13] {BillyD} just need a wider stop and longer time frame
[11:14] {Threei} not my domain so I better shut up before I hurt someone
[11:14] {BillyD} ROFLOL
[11:15] {Threei} you would think I should already know better than share these vague feelings eh
[11:15] {BillyD} at leats I was nice
[11:15] {BillyD} least
[11:15] {Threei} I appreciate it
[11:15] {BillyD} :)
[11:16] {lumdus} again, solf, wont even look at the damm stock
[11:16] {dino} sm s fxp .80
[11:16] {BillyD} look at PEIX.....thought it was most hated stock earlier w/ no bounce....now back up
[11:16] {Threei} what can I say... SOLF crashes and burns, you are a hero... SOLF goes to 35 - you won't hear the end of it, trust me {G}
[11:17] {lumdus} it could go to the moo, i couldnt' care less.
[11:17] {Threei} we will see {evi laughter}
[11:18] {lumdus} you can loose .11 just on the spread
[11:19] {BillyD} that is mild at times lum. it is its nature
[11:20] {Threei} I miss fractions...
[11:20] {Threei} 1/8 spread was timid stock
[11:20] {BillyD} yes
[11:20] {Threei} 1/4 - 3/8 almost norm
[11:20] {Threei} decimals got you so compacent guys :)
[11:21] {Threei} and in case you forgot how to interprete those, 1/8 = 12.5 cents
[11:27] {dino} cov fxp .40, +.40
[11:27] {Raven} ah yes ... fractions ... 1/2 point spread and a $700 commission on 1000 shares of a $30 stock
[11:27] {Threei} lol
[11:28] {Threei} nah, max commissions I had was 29.95
[11:28] {Raven} and that's no shit
[11:28] {Raven} before your time ... boy
[11:28] {magoo} well...u had a FULL service broker watching your back raven he he
[11:28] {BillyD} rofl
[11:29] {Threei} fine watching of a fine back that was
[11:29] {Raven} there were ONLY Full service brokers then
[11:29] {Raven} talk about a rigged system
[11:30] {Raven} damn stock had to go up $1.50 just to cover the commission
[11:30] {Raven} a real scalpers paradise :)
[11:30] {Threei} lol
[11:30] {liranm} Vad. NVDA?
[11:31] {Threei} I doubt it
[11:31] {Threei} barely returned to day high while NQ made a lot of new ones
[11:32] {liranm} OK
[11:32] {Threei} of course with 1/2 spread it would take just 3-4 small time buyers to get that $1.50 Raven :)
[11:33] {Threei} gosh liranm... you were out
[11:33] {Threei} missed LDK :(
[11:33] {Raven} you're thinking too hard now, 3i :)
[11:34] {Threei} rarely do I get blamed with that
[11:34] {Raven} face it ... scalpers did NOT exist
[11:34] {Threei} no, not in today's sesne of the word :)
[11:35] {Raven} in any sense of the word
[11:35] {Raven} if you wanted action in those days you traded commodity futures
[11:35] {Threei} well... marketmakers scalping the spread did exist
[11:35] {Raven} yes ... that is true
[11:35] {Threei} and daytrading as phenomena was around even in Jesse times :)
[11:35] {Raven} stealing the spread was more like it
[11:36] {Threei} eith THOSE spreads, yeah, lol
[11:37] {Chaeron} and retail guys they worked for getting the spread and marking it up or down 5% commission on top
[11:37] {Raven} you could scalp soybeans and corn and bellies tho
[11:37] {Raven} right Chaeron
[11:37] {Threei} beliies I still can
[11:37] {Chaeron} wouldn't do that back then unless on the floor
[11:37] {Threei} wait... you said scalp, I thought scratch
[11:37] {Raven} yup
[11:37] {Raven} sigh
[11:38] {Raven} you'd eat that bacon contract, 3i :)
[11:38] {Threei} and I am very skillful in scalping corn from the cob
[11:38] {Raven} glutton
[11:39] {Chaeron} wanna see *real* traders? go on the floor of CME ... S&P pit
[11:39] {Threei} as if I missed strong BO...
[11:39] {Raven} pretty much like the bean pit in the 1970's Chaeron
[11:40] {BillyD} Vad is now talking to himself
[11:40] {Raven} screeching and spitting and fighting
[11:40] {Threei} ENER, want pullback from here
[11:40] {Threei} so .50 re-test becomes a trigger
[11:40] {Raven} magoo would love it
[11:41] {Threei} too jerky... not delighted
[11:41] {Threei} skipped it personally, if anyone take it keep stop .35
[11:41] {Chaeron} traders then would eat tons of raw garlic or not bathe for days so that the stench would make other traders stand far away from them so that they would get their hand signals read and others to easily trade with them.. lol
[11:41] {Threei} there you go... told you, strong BO
[11:42] {Raven} lol ... I never witnessed that :)
[11:42] {Raven} but then I always stood on the top of the pits
[11:43] {Raven} to preserve my life
[11:44] {Chaeron} stab each other with pencils to get them to get out of their line of sight... one guy broke his leg jumping up and down on the "step" of his contract month and accidentally fell early in trading. Crawled by himself to the edge of the floor with ppl stepping on him, not helping in the slightest until the day was over
[11:44] {BillyD} ROFLOL
[11:44] {Chaeron} and ppl complain here :))
[11:44] {Raven} sheesh
[11:45] {Threei} no kidding... snowwhites
[11:45] {BillyD} actually, Vad probably pushed him down the steps
[11:45] {Chaeron} lol
[11:45] {Threei} lol
[11:45] {Threei} not if I had a gun on me billy
[11:45] {BillyD} afterall, he says ener on .50 break and then recants
[11:45] {Raven} I saw a number of fistfights
[11:45] {dino} rell s .22
[11:46] {BillyD} I could see vad in the pits, biting, clawing, spiting
[11:46] {BillyD} shooting
[11:48] {LaserDave1} ya you would read it in the paper the next day
[11:48] {LaserDave1} strange man swinging trout at people in the pits
[11:49] {Threei} {Threei} not if I had a gun on me billy
[11:49] {BillyD} uh oh
[11:49] {Threei} why bother with all that violence
[11:49] {Threei} and prolong someones agony
[11:50] {BillyD} Vad is a modern man
[11:50] {Threei} merciful shooting is my favorite way to commmunicate with people
[11:50] {BillyD} using modern tools as means of frustration management
[11:50] {Threei} somehow, as a result, not too many people around me though
[11:51] {Threei} but that's OK, saves ammo
[11:51] {BillyD} you kill me
[11:51] {BillyD} no pun intended
[11:51] {Threei} lol
[11:52] {Raven} {}
[11:52] {Threei} ask dp... last time we met he actually opted to having bulletproof vest on at all times
[11:52] {BillyD} it worked, he lives to tell about it
[11:52] {dptl} :)
[11:54] {Threei} patience talks to me strictly through the barely cracked window in her car... and esemde screens my phone calls out
[11:55] {magoo} leap news here..nice pullnbk
[11:55] {Threei} on, and Chaeron left Las Vegas expo 3 days before it was over when saw me on the expo floor... and whole thing was 4 days
[11:56] {Chaeron} I Was in town for only hours Vad..... :P
[11:56] {Threei} I don't see fresh news on my wires
[11:56] {Threei} yeah, that's what you exclaimed hurrying into cab
[11:57] {Chaeron} lol... at least we rode together
[11:57] {dino} rell bstop to .06
[11:57] {Threei} only because I tore off the door
[11:57] {Chaeron} lol
[11:57] {dino} make it .02
[11:58] {dino} to .92
[11:59] {Threei} roman, dcc please?
[12:00] {dino} cov .90, +.32
[12:01] {dino} omni
[12:02] {dino} back in 10
[12:02] {lumdus} dino, don't go. I did and paid 1.50 for it !
[12:10] {Threei} 1.53
[12:10] {Threei} sorry lum... won't let you get away with even 3 cents truth distrotion
[12:10] {lumdus} your bad
[12:11] {Threei} and proud of it
[12:11] {lumdus} that's the problem :)
[12:11] {Threei} whose?? :)
[12:11] {lumdus} the world
[12:11] {lumdus} anywhow, back to fighting the maket now.
[12:12] {Threei} ah world.... world has made-up global warming to resolve before I become its problem :)
[12:13] {lumdus} too funny 3i
[12:15] {dptl} ener?
[12:16] {Threei} it's trying to establish range for break...
[12:16] {Threei} .22 is probably worth a try if holding above .10
[12:16] {Threei} NQ is likely to help, looks preparing for another leg up
[12:17] {magoo} how aboyt LEAP long?
[12:17] {Threei} don't have anything on LEAP, sorry...
[12:18] {Threei} kind of in the middle of everything
[12:19] {magoo} k
[12:21] {dptl} ener still good to try?
[12:22] {Threei} nopt here
[12:22] {dptl} .30?
[12:23] {Threei} no no... that's too far from support
[12:23] {Threei} around .20 it made sense
[12:23] {dptl} i see
[12:23] {dino} spir
[12:23] {Threei} here, no
[12:31] {Threei} relentless selling, LDK
[12:32] {BillyD} who can time it
[12:32] {Threei} SOLF
[12:32] {Threei} half lot with stiop just under 25
[12:33] {dino} fxp sm l .20
[12:34] {BillyD} in .06
[12:34] {lumdus} in 10k shares in solf - paper trade :)
[12:34] {dptl} in .04
[12:36] {dino} txco
[12:38] {BillyD} out 1/2 +.12
[12:39] {dptl} out +.14ty
[12:39] {magoo} lum, u should at least cut 5k loose here lol
[12:40] {BillyD} rofl
[12:40] {Threei} welcome
[12:40] {lumdus} funny
[12:40] {lumdus} i can't even trade the damm thing on paper forget real money
[12:41] {dino} kndl
[12:42] {Threei} what to trade... there is an offer at acceptable price, take it...
[12:42] {Threei} then offer it out as it goes in your favor, or caatch a bid you like and hit it
[12:44] {Threei} I think tyou are exaggerating the difficulties with this type
[12:45] {lumdus} ok, maybe. I am trying to paper trade it untill i can get a hang of it.
[12:45] {Threei} it's not RIMM or AAPL that can move 50 cents faster than you can blink
[12:45] {BillyD} well, not on this move, but it can at times
[12:45] {Threei} or, god forbid, GOOG
[12:45] {lumdus} but it doesn't trade flowingly it goes in sperts
[12:46] {lumdus} never good
[12:46] {dino} stopped fxp
[12:46] {magoo} lum, u should try easier personality stox..er, um, say like BIDU
[12:47] * Threei observes lumdus reaching for the trout and takes first seat with popcorn in hand
[12:47] {lumdus} you said it. 3i
[12:47] {dptl} {"()))){
[12:47] {Threei} rofl
[12:48] {Threei} that's one funny fish
[12:48] {Threei} with ears
[12:48] {dptl} lol
[12:48] {dptl} thats eyes
[12:49] {Threei} nope
[12:49] {Threei} that was my first thought
[12:49] {Threei} but fish has eyes on a side, not sticking out on the top :)
[12:50] {Raven} {o()))))){{ ?
[12:50] {Threei} this one with eye, yes
[12:50] {dptl} lol....there you go
[12:50] {BillyD} out more at .30
[12:50] {Threei} dp's one with ears
[12:51] {Raven} what a room
[12:51] {Threei} and fish with ears sends me in laughter spasms
[12:51] {Raven} hard to find ... like chicken lips
[12:52] {Threei} or dog with gills
[12:53] {BillyD} out last SOLF +.30 thx Vad
[12:53] {Threei} welcome sir :)
[12:53] {Threei} amzing r/r
[12:53] {Threei} 7-8 cents risk
[12:53] {BillyD} yes
[12:53] {dino} s kndl .03
[12:53] {Threei} never jeopradize stop, never made you sweat
[12:53] {Threei} and lum no likey
[12:54] {BillyD} that was clearest trade for me today......been in an unclarity type of day
[12:56] {dino} kndl bstop to .99
[12:57] {Threei} Ok guysd, thank you all
[12:57] {Threei} that was fun day somehow
[12:57] {dino} ldk -20
[12:57] {magoo} ty vad
[12:58] {Threei} some nice profitable trades, and a lot of humor
[12:58] {BillyD} cya Vad
[12:58] {Threei} unfortunately my contribution was as always...
[12:58] {Threei} questionable
[12:58] {BillyD} actually, you made me laugh when needed
[12:58] {dptl} have a good evening all
[12:58] {BillyD} Vad in the pits lol
[12:58] {Threei} but I decided once and for all, I have too muc respect for Seinfield to make his life any tougher than it is
[12:59] {Threei} see you all tomorrow
[12:59] {dino} kndl stopped flat
[13:00] {dino} gn all
