
Real Time Comments on BEAS pullback that lead to Stop Loss Taken
| 11/15/00 | <Chris> | 09:48:22 watching KOPN (turtle), PSFT, BEAS |
| 11/15/00 | <Chris> | 09:49:39 watching BEAS for pullback bottom off 74 high |
| 11/15/00 | <Chris> | 09:51:10 don't buy into selling |
| 11/15/00 | <Chris> | 09:51:17 looking for final gasp and reversal |
| 11/15/00 | <Chris> | Consider Buying: BEAS 72 stop at 71 3/4 |
| 11/15/00 | <Chris> | 09:52:29 need move over 72 1/2 |
| 11/15/00 | <Chris> | 09:52:49 I'd offer this one out into strength |
| 11/15/00 | <Chris> | 09:53:19 bounce weak so far |
| 11/15/00 | <Chris> | 09:54:01 BEAS take stop at 3/4 |
| 11/15/00 | <Chris> | 09:54:07 you may have to go lower |
Real-Time Training on BEAS alert
[12:36] <@Chris> First, let's go over a trade that
forced us to take a stop loss
[12:36] <@Chris> Please bring up the BEAS chart at www.realitytrader.com/calls/beas.htm
[12:37] <@Chris> To start we had a very nice uptrend
move from the open from the 69 level, breaking open price of 70
and continuing to near 74.
[12:38] <@Chris> The double top at 74 gives way to a
pullback that I was interested in finding for a reversal and
possibly a continuing uptrend.
[12:39] <@Chris> I didn't begin to focus on this
stock until about the 73 level as the pullback was showing
reasonable selling and the price was dropping well enough to look
for a bounce.
[12:39] <@Chris> A reversal.
[12:40] <@Chris> For a reversal, we need one of two
things:
[12:40] <@Chris> Stock needs to develop some sort of
mini range or fast selling (capitulation) leads to a readable
bottom.
[12:41] <@Chris> Should the stock develop a mini
range we can look to bid the low, much like we did on AMZN
earlier
[12:41] <@Chris> or we can look for a break of the
high of that range.
[12:41] <@Chris> In this case, I was looking for
faster selling to lead me to the bottom.
[12:42] <@Chris> The comment: Look for a final gasp
and reversal was a statement in anticipation of this event.
[12:42] <@Chris> The blue circle represents this
event finally happening.
[12:43] <@Chris> You will notice that in the area of
this blue circel, the corresponding volume shows a spike
represented by the bar higher than the rest.
[12:43] <@Chris> circel = circle
[12:43] <@Chris> This is where the entry was alerted.
[12:44] <@Chris> 71 3/4 was the reversal point, 72
was the highest possible entry I would have entered.
[12:44] <@Chris> Next comments are based on the
following evaluations:
[12:44] <@Chris> Unfortunately, if you bring up a
Level 2 on BEAS right now, it doesn't show the higher risk
evaluation that was occuring at the
time of this pivot point.
[12:45] <@Chris> Right now, BEAS shows tighter
spreads, reasonable MP (market participation) at each level and
it's slow.
[12:45] <@Chris> When this trade was being alerted,
it traded more erratic
[12:45] <@Chris> much like you see on IWOV right now
[12:46] <@Chris> spreads widen, MP is minimal
[12:46] <@Chris> sizes aren't great, etc.
[12:46] <@Chris> Showing a higher evaluation risk.
[12:47] <@Chris> In these cases, the trader needs to
limit his exposure to 200 to 300 shares depending on money
management principle that matters to you.
[12:47] <@Chris> From execution standpoint, 200 to
300 is easier to execute than a lot of 1000, especially if the
trade was not offering the profit potential desired.
[12:48] <@Chris> Even 500 takes a much greater
comfort level in execution.
[12:48] <@Chris> Most ECNs are not at or near inside
levels for very long making executions difficult.
[12:48] <@Chris> SOES, forget it.
[12:48] <@Chris> SNET to MM, maybe, but not likely.
[12:49] <@Chris> So if trader has to trade 200 to 300
shares with risk of 1/4 point if wrong, the risk/reward scenario
should allow the trade a move
to at least 72 1/2 to be worth it.
[12:49] <@Chris> What we see is:
[12:50] <@Chris> The reversal occured and made a move
higher so the pivot point was correctly identified.
[12:50] <@Chris> However, the potential was not
enough to warrant the risk assumed.
[12:50] <@Chris> The trade offered an exit to about
72 5/16 tops and even that would have been hard to get filled on.
[12:51] <@Chris> From this weak bounce, the holders
of the stock were forced to take a stop at 71 3/4, which was low
of the pivot point.
[12:52] <@Chris> With BEAS being hard to execute, and
selling hitting it, I would hit the ECN showing most size
anywhere from the 71 3/4 level or
higher as it was selling. The stock can drop 1/2 point in few
seconds, so it's not worth the effort of "we'll see if it
holds 3/4 or not".
[12:53] <@Chris> Many stocks this is reasonable, when
bids are thick and levels are larger, gaps between levels are
tight.
[12:53] <@Chris> In stock with higher execution risk,
best to not wait for selling at stop price to try and hit the
bid.
[12:54] <@Chris> Unless you feel like going lower
bids to get exits.
[12:54] <@Chris> So BEAS turned out to be a pivot
point reversal after fast selling that didn't follow through
[12:54] <@Chris> and forced a stop loss taken when
the pivot point low was jeopardized.