
Real-Time Comments on AMCC Short of the Downtrend
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | Consider Shorting: AMCC 62 1/4 to 62 1/2...looking for break of low...62 1/2 high of current mini range, MLCO is holding it lower. |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:07:49 AMCC stop hit |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:35:10 watching AMCC again for possible short play |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:37:45 see if we can get some buying to short into |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:37:58 I'm looking for 62 to break |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:39:28 I'd use 62 1/2 as stop area again |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:40:16 use 62 1/2 stop |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:40:33 so far problem breaking 62 1/4 so 1/2 is reasonable |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:40:38 and would like under 62 |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:41:23 need a move at least under 61 1/2 |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:41:29 and would like to see 61 |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:42:06 I'd lower stop to 61 1/4 |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:42:14 that was last high |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:42:17 62 1/4 |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:42:18 sorry |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:43:35 scalps on AMCC begin to bid it |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:43:42 and lower stop to 62 |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:44:03 61 5/8 is okay for scalpers |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:44:10 holders keep stop at just over 62 |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:44:43 Holders should exit 1/2 position at least here |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:44:54 keep stop 62 for remaining shares |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:47:00 look to exit remaining shares on this gasp of selling |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:47:07 or lower stop to 61 3/4 |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:49:24 AMCC holders can keep stop at 61 3/4 and see where we go with it. |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:54:08 if we get under 61 on AMCC, lower stop to 61 1/2 |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:56:12 Let's lower stop to 61 1/2 on AMCC |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:56:48 if you see any more capitulatory type selling, let's cover there. |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:57:57 AMCC faster selling |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:58:02 let's lower stop to 61 1/4 |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:58:36 let's cover it now under 61 |
| 11/16/00 | <Chris> | 14:58:55 60 3/4 would be fine |
Training Session on AMCC short alert
<@Chris> Today we will be going over AMCC
chart
<@Chris> Please bring up www.realitytrader.com/calls/amcc.htm
<@Chris> First thing we see is a nice downtrend mov from 63
3/4 to 62.
<@Chris> Unfortunately we were not watching this stock from
this move to play either the downtrend or the reversal from 62.
<@Chris> But it paints a nice lesson:
<@Chris> Capitulation selling leading to a reversal.
<@Chris> You can see the corresponding volume bars rising
at the point of reversal.
<@Chris> From this we see a reversal point to 62 7/8 area.
<@Chris> So we have a mini range defined of 62 to 62 7/8.
<@Chris> The second test of the low held and just before
2:00 time period.
<@Chris> If we were lookign to trade within the range:
<@Chris> Trader could enter the trade at 62 1/8 no higher
with stop at 62 low.
<@Chris> For this to happen we need: slow selling to 62
level with good support shown.
<@Chris> Fast selling at 62 paints a picture that 62 might
not hold and reasonable support non existant says that if we are
wrong, keeping the stop
at 62 will be more difficult.
<@Chris> As you can see in this graph, the volume is a bit
erratic, but we described a situation that lower volume on price
rise paints scenario that
downtrend is still intact.
<@Chris> Volume in this case did not pick up tremendously
at 62 1/4 area and there is a little shelf of 3 bars at 62 1/2
that was serving as resistance
off the second test of 62.
<@Chris> At this point, I wanted to short 62 1/4 with stop
at 1/2, assuming a risk of 1/4 point, 5/16 point if you waited
for the confirmation break.
<@Chris> As you can see, this stopped us out as the low of
62, which would have kept the trade valid, did not occur.
<@Chris> I was forced to take 5/16 loss on the trade as 1/2
level was eaten too quick for a fill.
<@Chris> As the stock moved higher to the mini range high
again, a trader had a reasonable and fair play to short the
second retest of the high.
<@Chris> however, in this case, one of the two things
needed wasn't present for the short.
<@Chris> Buying was slowing and this supports decision to
short mini range high.
<@Chris> However, ask was thin and if any pickup in pace
occured, stock was higher execution risk.
<@Chris> must like it was at the 62 1/2 level.
<@Chris> This is the difference in trading just off a level
1 and seeing depth off a level 2.
<@Chris> In this case, not seeing depth, maybe I enter and
look good.
<@Chris> However, too many times, not being able to see
depth is a detriment to your trading.
<@Chris> And a few stocks that jump on you will outweigh
the converse side of the issue.
<@Chris> Next we start to see the slide off the 62 7/8 area
picking up in pace again.
<@Chris> Any retest of the low would be the 3rd test and
with pace increasing, I felt it was another reasonable look for
short entry.
<@Chris> We see a test of 62 and a small bounce that allows
us an entry.
<@Chris> At this point, the same setup occurs, stop near 62
1/4 with stop at 62 1/2.
<@Chris> This time fortunately it breaks on increasing
volume.
<@Chris> If it didn't break, stop would have been taken
again at 62 1/2 or 9/16 depending on your execution
<@Chris> The break of 62 confirms the downtrend is still
intact so we begin to plan our exit strategy for the position.
<@Chris> Scalpers normally want to exit positions at first
signs of strength, which in this case is defined in the area
where the pink horizontal line is.
<@Chris> The 61 5/8 to 11/16 area was fine for scalpers
<@Chris> taking a 1/2 point or so depending on execution
level.
<@Chris> Holders of the downtrend looked to bid near the 61
1/2 level as the stock was showing a bit of a support level in
the 61 1/2 to 61 3/8 area.
<@Chris> Taking 1/2 to 3/4 on half of the position is
reasonable for the risk assumed, which was 1/4 to 5/16.
<@Chris> After we take 1/2, we lower stop to breakeven
level on anything remaining.
<@Chris> In this case, any buying at 62 to
62 1/4 and the trader can exit the rest of the position with
small profit
<@Chris> or flat trade.
<@Chris> As the trade remains, we look for the tape reading
priniciple of capitulation selling.
<@Chris> This is where we will look to cover anything
remaining
<@Chris> or use it to at least lower the stop accordingly.
<@Chris> From about 2:50 to 3:10 EST
<@Chris> we see increasing volume with the stock dropping
faster.
<@Chris> This is where the trade would take full shares on
the trade, or lower stop to about 61 1/4.
<@Chris> You will notice 61 1/4 area is the area that broke
sending the stock to under 61.
<@Chris> So using this is reasonable.
<@Chris> We alerted that taking rest of profits near 60 3/4
was fine.
<@Chris> For those that didn't, using 61 1/4 still gave
them near a 1 point profit on remaining shares.
<@Chris> I enjoy this due to the cushion provided as the
stock fell.
<@Chris> There is an opposite side issue:
<@Chris> Buying the capitulation selling for a reversal.
<@Chris> Unfortunately, I was unable to alert a reversal as
I was focused on the short side of the trade that the reversal
was being clouded my the short focus.
<@Chris> One more aspects to my own trading that I continue
to work on.
<@Chris> Being a never ending student of the game, there
are issues such as these I continue to learn.
<@Chris> So in summary:
<@Chris> First short cost stop loss 1/4 to 5/16 after
second test held of mini range low.
<@Chris> Shorting the top of the mini range didn't fit a
risk criteria as the ask was too thin
<@Chris> Shorting the same setup as earlier provided a
setup and break.
<@Chris> Scalpers covered into first signs of strength.
<@Chris> Holders covered at least 1/2 to protect profits at
level of uncertainty.
<@Chris> Anyone holding remaining shares waited for last
gasp of selling to cover into.
<@Chris> The reversal after the final capitulation selling
was missed due to clouded focus that I continue to work on :)